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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
Maximus: Oral TRT+ (native T + enclomiphene + pregnenolone)
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<blockquote data-quote="Guided_by_Voices" data-source="post: 277498" data-attributes="member: 15235"><p>My example of Oxandrolone was to point out that some of us on here seem to do better at lower T levels but also benefit from some more specific compounds. For example many of us benefit from the joint/injury tonic that the nandrolone family of compounds provides. Dixiewrecked mentioned proviron for DHT benefits although personally I don't find benefit there, but many people do. For those of us that need to maintain strength on a weekly workout schedule ( and hence have a 2-day recovery window at some point) the anabolic aspect is by no means unimportant. It will take a lot of crowdsourcing to figure out which compounds can be added in while maintaining decent LH levels and the degree to which the suppression is due to the compounds vs. dose vs. persistence in the body.</p><p></p><p>Also, while I haven't followed the enclomiphene/clomid debate too closely, my understanding is that clomid is cheaper and much easier to reliably source, so I assume that most people who are going to try this approach would go that route at least to start, if they can tolerate it. Personally, I responded well to very low doses of clomid (low in comparison to what Dr. Gordon or the PCT protocols use) so perhaps that is why I did not have issues.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As an aside, this approach (in general, combining a SERM and a short-acting AAS) has been something that many people reported to "work" and posted logic saying it should work, and were then shouted down, usually by those in the perma-blast community for whom everything has to be extreme, so it's heartening to see this approach getting some validation and traction, at least as an option.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guided_by_Voices, post: 277498, member: 15235"] My example of Oxandrolone was to point out that some of us on here seem to do better at lower T levels but also benefit from some more specific compounds. For example many of us benefit from the joint/injury tonic that the nandrolone family of compounds provides. Dixiewrecked mentioned proviron for DHT benefits although personally I don't find benefit there, but many people do. For those of us that need to maintain strength on a weekly workout schedule ( and hence have a 2-day recovery window at some point) the anabolic aspect is by no means unimportant. It will take a lot of crowdsourcing to figure out which compounds can be added in while maintaining decent LH levels and the degree to which the suppression is due to the compounds vs. dose vs. persistence in the body. Also, while I haven't followed the enclomiphene/clomid debate too closely, my understanding is that clomid is cheaper and much easier to reliably source, so I assume that most people who are going to try this approach would go that route at least to start, if they can tolerate it. Personally, I responded well to very low doses of clomid (low in comparison to what Dr. Gordon or the PCT protocols use) so perhaps that is why I did not have issues. As an aside, this approach (in general, combining a SERM and a short-acting AAS) has been something that many people reported to "work" and posted logic saying it should work, and were then shouted down, usually by those in the perma-blast community for whom everything has to be extreme, so it's heartening to see this approach getting some validation and traction, at least as an option. [/QUOTE]
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