march labs

Re-Ride · Mar 16, 2018

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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]March Labs.[/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Red Blood Cell Count[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]5.74 M/uL[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]4.40 - 6.00 M/uL[/TD]
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[TR="class: odd alertItem"]
[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Hemoglobin[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]18.1 g/dL[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]13.5 - 18.0 g/dL[/TD]
[TD="class: flagCol"]H[/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Hematocrit[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]53.7 %[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]40.0 - 52.0 %[/TD]
[TD="class: flagCol"]H[/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCV[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]94 fL[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]80 - 100 fL[/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCH[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]31.5 pg[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]27.0 - 33.0 pg[/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]MCHC[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]33.7 g/dL[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]31.0 - 36.0 g/dL[/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]RDW[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]13.9 %[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]<16.4 %[/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Platelet Count[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]170 K/uL[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]150 - 400 K/uL[/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]BP 170/102[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]170/102

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[TD="class: flagCol"]H[/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]B/P notes: Long history of 100-118/60-70.
Abrupt elevation began a number of months ago.[/TD]
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Re-Ride · Mar 16, 2018

Got a medical phlebotomy scheduled. The rapid transition from a healthy blood pressure to dire unhealthy high blood pressure is the primary concern.

Suggestions on supplements to lower BP?

pistolero · Mar 16, 2018

Re-Ride said:
Suggestions on supplements?

The one that dropped my BP the most (and fast) is Hawthorn berry three times a day. A good garlic supp can't hurt.

Vince · Mar 17, 2018

Re-Ride said:
Suggestions on supplements to lower BP?

Magnesium is a natural calcium channel blocker and lowers systolic blood pressure by 8 mm Hg and diastolic blood pressure by between 3.8 and 7.6 mm Hg .

Kyolic aged garlic 600 mg twice a day reduced systolic BP 10.2 mm in 12 weeks.

Vitamin C 250 mg twice a day reduced BP 7/4 mm

Vitamin D . Raising 25-vitamin D by 180% reduced BP by 6/6 mm

Vitamin B6 5 mg/kg body weight/day for 4 weeks lowered BP by 14/10 mm Hg. Some people can't tolerate that much B6.

Coenzyme Q10 17/10mm Hg but only 50% of people respond

Melatonin 3-6mg /day 6/4 mm Hg

Re-Ride · Mar 17, 2018

Thanks Vince and pistolero. I'm already taking all of those plus 5HTP, L-theanine except for the garlic and hawthorn berry.

Vince said:
Magnesium is a natural calcium channel blocker and lowers systolic blood pressure by 8 mm Hg and diastolic blood pressure by between 3.8 and 7.6 mm Hg .

Kyolic aged garlic 600 mg twice a day reduced systolic BP 10.2 mm in 12 weeks.

Vitamin C 250 mg twice a day reduced BP 7/4 mm

Vitamin D . Raising 25-vitamin D by 180% reduced BP by 6/6 mm

Vitamin B6 5 mg/kg body weight/day for 4 weeks lowered BP by 14/10 mm Hg. Some people can't tolerate that much B6.

Coenzyme Q1017/10mm Hg but only 50% of people respond

Melatonin3-6mg /day 6/4 mm Hg

Re-Ride · Mar 19, 2018

Therapeutic phlebotomy mentioned above was cancelled this morning at the last minute by the facility. This perfectly exemplifies my long held position: Know before hand what action your doctor will or will not take PRIOR to submitting to a lab draw or procedure. Obtain in writing, signed by a witness , the precise treatment proposed based upon the exact outcome of the test procedure. prior to your consenting to the procedure.

Most testing is performed without any forethought whatsoever as to how the results are to be acted upon. We can safely ignore attempts to monetize out patient status.

Vince Carter · Mar 19, 2018

Remind me again why phlebotomy over a plain old blood donation?

Re-Ride · Mar 20, 2018

Vince Carter said:
Remind me again why phlebotomy over a plain old blood donation?

Large swaths of the population do not qualify to make blood donations.

Vince Carter · Mar 20, 2018

Ah OK so you can't donate I thought so.

ratbag · Mar 20, 2018

You should not get a phlebotomy until you know what your ferritin is. Lots of posts on this here.

Re-Ride · Mar 20, 2018

ratbag said:
You should not get a phlebotomy until you know what your ferritin is. Lots of posts on this here.

Frerritin was done ar my insistence at the same draw. 146 ng/mL (20-388). Also:

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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Iron[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]76 ug/dL[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]35 - 150 ug/dL[/TD]
[TD="class: flagCol"][/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Iron Binding[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]324 ug/dL[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]250 - 450 ug/dL[/TD]
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[TD="class: nameCol srchbl"]Iron % Saturation[/TD]
[TD="class: valueCol"]23 %[/TD]
[TD="class: rangeCol"]20 - 50 %[/TD]
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Why offer a phlebotomy where the prospects for pulmonary and kidney failure promise far greater profits?

Vince Carter · Mar 20, 2018

Vince said:
Magnesium is a natural calcium channel blocker and lowers systolic blood pressure by 8 mm Hg and diastolic blood pressure by between 3.8 and 7.6 mm Hg .

I believe I've heard Dr C repeat that statement and it's 800mg IIRC

Vince Carter · Mar 20, 2018

No blood bank will take you in for phlebotomy? I know mine charges like $30-60 for the service with a Dr's script since they aren't able to use the blood.

FeelingLost · Mar 20, 2018

Re-Ride said:
Got a medical phlebotomy scheduled. The rapid transition from a healthy blood pressure to dire unhealthy high blood pressure is the primary concern.

Suggestions on supplements to lower BP?

Bummer to read this this morning Re-Ride. This does sound scary.

I wonder why they don't make a DIY phlebotomy kit. It can't be that hard.
Most of us who donate blood and take blood test all the time know exactly where to stick ourselves and how to stop the bleeding afterwards.

Hell I couldn't do worse than this.

Do you take a NO stack? As someone who checks his BP and now BG a couple times a day I tell you this has dropped both my numbers 10 points.
My stack does have two prescriptions in it.

Re-Ride · Mar 24, 2018

Ouch! Let me guess FeelingLost. The handiwork of Labcorp?

blackebob · Mar 24, 2018

FeelingLost said:
Bummer to read this this morning Re-Ride.

Do you take a NO stack? As someone who checks his BP and now BG a couple times a day I tell you this has dropped both my numbers 10 points.
My stack does have two prescriptions in it.

What dropped it 10 points?

Vince · Mar 24, 2018

blackebob said:
What dropped it 10 points?

Here's a copy of Feelinglost NO stack.

FeelingLost said:
Thank you for the reply back and any suggestions you're willing to offer. My current stack is a modified Gene's NO stack.
5 mg of Tadalafil (Cialis) 1 morning 1 evening (10mg/24hrs)
750mg L-Arginine, 1 morning
250mg L-Citrulline, 1 morning
60mg Pycnogenol, 1 morning
40 mg of Icariin (Horny Goat Weed) 1 evening
0.5 mg Doxazosin 1 morning 1 evening (1 mg of Doxazosin / 24hrs)

Vince · Mar 24, 2018

Vince said:
Here's a copy of Feelinglost NO stack.

Oops that was his old stack. https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?13077-I-simplified-my-Nitric-Oxide-stack!

Re-Ride · Mar 24, 2018

Thanks for the many suggestions. L-Arginine and L-Citrulline are new to me in the past month. Previously used the pycogenol from the 2016 bark beetle post. Have tried Icarin. I stopped these last two after a kidney diagnosis. Beyond the safety concerns of these and other supplements the rapid increases in supplement costs have become a factor as well.

Although the local blood banks do not do paid phlebotomy we are fortunate to have an Infusion Center as part of the local foundation. They also accept Medicare. However my doc cancelled the order until he sees more labs which were supposed to be done yesterday at LabCorp. If LabCorp can be persuaded to enter the diag codes and no new bizarre barrier pops up with them, which is asking a lot of LabCorp, perhaps I'll be able to get a draw in a few weeks. If those are actually resulted I can begin the petition to get them uploaded to HAL, the foundation's computer and then seek the phlebotomy order. Last year this process took 10 weeks but was ultimately successful.