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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
When Testosterone Is Not Enough
Libido: hCG vs higher T / E2
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<blockquote data-quote="FunkOdyssey" data-source="post: 229838" data-attributes="member: 44064"><p>When people say that hCG improves libido, it seems like a huge confounding factor to me that it also substantially increases your testosterone level and especially your E2, while reducing the T/E2 ratio. Has anyone achieved the same or very similar levels of T and E2 both on and off hCG to isolate hCG as the driver of the libido increase?</p><p></p><p>If you're a lean guy and you take exogenous T and turn off the testicular production of E2, your T:E2 ratio should increase -- mine has already. You had direct production plus aromatization and now you've only got aromatization.</p><p></p><p>In other words, would people that benefitted from hCG have done just as well if they manipulated their T and E2 to identical values?</p><p></p><p>And if you think the answer is no, what do you think is responsible for the benefit then? 17-OH progesterone? LH receptors in the brain?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FunkOdyssey, post: 229838, member: 44064"] When people say that hCG improves libido, it seems like a huge confounding factor to me that it also substantially increases your testosterone level and especially your E2, while reducing the T/E2 ratio. Has anyone achieved the same or very similar levels of T and E2 both on and off hCG to isolate hCG as the driver of the libido increase? If you're a lean guy and you take exogenous T and turn off the testicular production of E2, your T:E2 ratio should increase -- mine has already. You had direct production plus aromatization and now you've only got aromatization. In other words, would people that benefitted from hCG have done just as well if they manipulated their T and E2 to identical values? And if you think the answer is no, what do you think is responsible for the benefit then? 17-OH progesterone? LH receptors in the brain? [/QUOTE]
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Libido: hCG vs higher T / E2
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