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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Blood Test Discussion
Latest Blood Work - Input Requested & Comparison of SubQ to IM
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<blockquote data-quote="Saul" data-source="post: 88651" data-attributes="member: 16541"><p>This is a two part post. Sorry for the long post. </p><p> .</p><p>First, any advice or comments on the following blood work. My first test for everything listed except for Total and Free T, and Estradiol so I would be grateful for your opinions. I don’t fully understand all the thyroid labs or prolactin, but everything was in range.</p><p> .</p><p>My <u>protocol for the 8 weeks prior to this blood draw</u> was Test Cyp at 35 mg every 3 days (about 81 mg / week) with SubQ injections into stomach fat varying in location from love handles (not that I have any!) to about 2 inches from belly button. No HCG or AI. No pain or any issues with SubQ injections. Blood draw occurred in the morning before an injection. I was using 28 G, 1/2“ insulin syringe. I also started taking 15 mg of zinc picolinate with dinner. I am 16% body fat in case that matters and eat healthy and exercise. Overall I feel pretty good. Thanks for any input.</p><p> .</p><p> <strong>Testosterone,Free and Total </strong>639 ng/dL Reference Range: 264 - 916 01</p><p> <strong>Free Testosterone(Direct)</strong> 16.9 pg/mL Reference Range: 6.8 - 21.5</p><p><strong>Dihydrotestosterone </strong>59 ng/dL Reference Range: Adult Male: 30 – 85</p><p> <strong>Thyroxine (T4) Free, </strong>(Direct) 1.41 ng/dL Reference Range: 0.82 - 1.77 </p><p> <strong>TSH </strong>1.420 uIU/mL Reference Range: 0.450 - 4.500 01</p><p> <strong>Prolactin </strong>9.1 ng/mL Reference Range: 4.0 - 15.2 01</p><p> <strong>Estradiol, Sensitive 36.0 High </strong>pg/mL Reference Range: 8.0 - 35.0 </p><p> <strong>Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum </strong>2.8 pg/mL Reference Range: 2.0 - 4.4 </p><p> . </p><p>Second, we can compare this to my <u>prior protocol</u>, which was Test Cyp at about 70 mg every week IM into thigh muscle. Blood draw was about 5 days after last injection, so not right before next shot, but about two days until next shot. No HCG or AI. Injections with 25 G, 1 inch needle.</p><p> .</p><p><strong>Testosterone, Total LC/MS </strong>671.2 ng/dL Reference Range: 264.0 - 916.0 02</p><p> <strong>Free Testosterone</strong>(Direct) 16.9 pg/mL Reference Range: 6.8 - 21.5 02</p><p><strong>Estradiol, Sensitive 39.9 High </strong>pg/mL Reference Range: 8.0 - 35.0</p><p> . </p><p>Notwithstanding any difference in the timing of the blood draw, the more frequent injection and zinc appears to have lowered my Estradiol by a few points. I was bit concerned at 40 and 36 seems better, but I felt good at 40. I prefer SubQ injections as I occasionally get a bit of soreness when doing IM and mentally I prefer SubQ over IM since it seems less damaging (true or not). <u>But, IMO</u>, I felt better when I inject IM – hard to explain, maybe just in my mind, but felt like I had more energy, less anxiety, and more mental ambition/confidence. Maybe that was still part of the cherry high. Also could have been other life factors – not everything is T related. But, in my mind I felt a bit better with IM. My T did drop a bit with E3D injections SubQ but that could have been blood draw timing or due to SubQ. I have read others noticed a drop in T when going to SubQ, but my drop is small.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saul, post: 88651, member: 16541"] This is a two part post. Sorry for the long post. . First, any advice or comments on the following blood work. My first test for everything listed except for Total and Free T, and Estradiol so I would be grateful for your opinions. I don’t fully understand all the thyroid labs or prolactin, but everything was in range. . My [U]protocol for the 8 weeks prior to this blood draw[/U] was Test Cyp at 35 mg every 3 days (about 81 mg / week) with SubQ injections into stomach fat varying in location from love handles (not that I have any!) to about 2 inches from belly button. No HCG or AI. No pain or any issues with SubQ injections. Blood draw occurred in the morning before an injection. I was using 28 G, 1/2“ insulin syringe. I also started taking 15 mg of zinc picolinate with dinner. I am 16% body fat in case that matters and eat healthy and exercise. Overall I feel pretty good. Thanks for any input. . [B]Testosterone,Free and Total [/B]639 ng/dL Reference Range: 264 - 916 01 [B]Free Testosterone(Direct)[/B] 16.9 pg/mL Reference Range: 6.8 - 21.5 [B]Dihydrotestosterone [/B]59 ng/dL Reference Range: Adult Male: 30 – 85 [B]Thyroxine (T4) Free, [/B](Direct) 1.41 ng/dL Reference Range: 0.82 - 1.77 [B]TSH [/B]1.420 uIU/mL Reference Range: 0.450 - 4.500 01 [B]Prolactin [/B]9.1 ng/mL Reference Range: 4.0 - 15.2 01 [B]Estradiol, Sensitive 36.0 High [/B]pg/mL Reference Range: 8.0 - 35.0 [B]Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum [/B]2.8 pg/mL Reference Range: 2.0 - 4.4 . Second, we can compare this to my [U]prior protocol[/U], which was Test Cyp at about 70 mg every week IM into thigh muscle. Blood draw was about 5 days after last injection, so not right before next shot, but about two days until next shot. No HCG or AI. Injections with 25 G, 1 inch needle. . [B]Testosterone, Total LC/MS [/B]671.2 ng/dL Reference Range: 264.0 - 916.0 02 [B]Free Testosterone[/B](Direct) 16.9 pg/mL Reference Range: 6.8 - 21.5 02 [B]Estradiol, Sensitive 39.9 High [/B]pg/mL Reference Range: 8.0 - 35.0 . Notwithstanding any difference in the timing of the blood draw, the more frequent injection and zinc appears to have lowered my Estradiol by a few points. I was bit concerned at 40 and 36 seems better, but I felt good at 40. I prefer SubQ injections as I occasionally get a bit of soreness when doing IM and mentally I prefer SubQ over IM since it seems less damaging (true or not). [U]But, IMO[/U], I felt better when I inject IM – hard to explain, maybe just in my mind, but felt like I had more energy, less anxiety, and more mental ambition/confidence. Maybe that was still part of the cherry high. Also could have been other life factors – not everything is T related. But, in my mind I felt a bit better with IM. My T did drop a bit with E3D injections SubQ but that could have been blood draw timing or due to SubQ. I have read others noticed a drop in T when going to SubQ, but my drop is small. [/QUOTE]
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