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Blood Test Discussion
lab results for IM vs SQ ED protocols....
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<blockquote data-quote="Gman86" data-source="post: 150427" data-attributes="member: 15043"><p>Honestly I would try dropping the HCG. I also thought I needed HCG for backfilling hormones, to keep testicles full, to have a better libido, to have more ejaculate, etc. But now that I’ve been off of it for 3-4 months, I notice no difference in any of those areas. My testicles didn’t even get smaller. They are the exact same size as when I was on HCG. I think I’ve honestly only noticed that I feel a little better. Or at least the same. So I would try dropping it. For me, I think it’s allowing me to not need an ai, which is amazing. </p><p></p><p>And trust me, I know exactly what you’re going through with the PIP! When I first started prop i was injected in the outter part of my thigh, where there’s very little fat, and the muscle is very dense, and the PIP was insane! I literally was going to stop using prop because I couldn’t deal with the pain. I was extremely sad, because I really loved the idea of prop. I then tried injecting more into the top of the thigh, where the muscle is less dense, and there’s a little more fat on top of the muscle, and it was night and day! I still had a little PIP, but it was totally manageable. I was so relived, because I knew I could continue to use prop. And then after a couple weeks I started to not get any PIP at all. It was so weird. And that has continued to this day. It’s like my body has gotten used to the prop or something. I haven’t changed the location of the injections, or the brand of prop, or the needle size or anything. And I’ve only ever done IM with prop. So not sure why I don’t get any PIP anymore, but it’s obv amazing. I honestly still get a little PIP sometimes, but it’s basically nothing. Doesn’t effect me at all. I’m using empower’s prop btw.</p><p></p><p>Ya it’s only a 5 mg difference, but that’s a 35mg difference per week. And not a 35mg total difference including Esthers, that’s a 35mg difference of straight testosterone. That’s a huge difference. And I’m not 100% positive, but I don’t think it works as linearly as we think. I don’t think if you raise your dose 40%, your total and free T will both raise by 40%. I could be wrong on that obv. But the body is complicated.</p><p></p><p>What I would do if I were you, is stay on prop, inject it IM, raise the dose to around 25-30mg daily, and drop the HCG all together. And then get labs done in a couple months.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gman86, post: 150427, member: 15043"] Honestly I would try dropping the HCG. I also thought I needed HCG for backfilling hormones, to keep testicles full, to have a better libido, to have more ejaculate, etc. But now that I’ve been off of it for 3-4 months, I notice no difference in any of those areas. My testicles didn’t even get smaller. They are the exact same size as when I was on HCG. I think I’ve honestly only noticed that I feel a little better. Or at least the same. So I would try dropping it. For me, I think it’s allowing me to not need an ai, which is amazing. And trust me, I know exactly what you’re going through with the PIP! When I first started prop i was injected in the outter part of my thigh, where there’s very little fat, and the muscle is very dense, and the PIP was insane! I literally was going to stop using prop because I couldn’t deal with the pain. I was extremely sad, because I really loved the idea of prop. I then tried injecting more into the top of the thigh, where the muscle is less dense, and there’s a little more fat on top of the muscle, and it was night and day! I still had a little PIP, but it was totally manageable. I was so relived, because I knew I could continue to use prop. And then after a couple weeks I started to not get any PIP at all. It was so weird. And that has continued to this day. It’s like my body has gotten used to the prop or something. I haven’t changed the location of the injections, or the brand of prop, or the needle size or anything. And I’ve only ever done IM with prop. So not sure why I don’t get any PIP anymore, but it’s obv amazing. I honestly still get a little PIP sometimes, but it’s basically nothing. Doesn’t effect me at all. I’m using empower’s prop btw. Ya it’s only a 5 mg difference, but that’s a 35mg difference per week. And not a 35mg total difference including Esthers, that’s a 35mg difference of straight testosterone. That’s a huge difference. And I’m not 100% positive, but I don’t think it works as linearly as we think. I don’t think if you raise your dose 40%, your total and free T will both raise by 40%. I could be wrong on that obv. But the body is complicated. What I would do if I were you, is stay on prop, inject it IM, raise the dose to around 25-30mg daily, and drop the HCG all together. And then get labs done in a couple months. [/QUOTE]
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