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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
Is your TRT Clinic a PILL MILL??
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<blockquote data-quote="Phil Goodman" data-source="post: 277359" data-attributes="member: 42777"><p>Again, I agree that there are plenty of bad clinics out there. However, I would also reiterate that many are great and much better at helping people with hormonal issues than their doctor. And I agree 100% with your statement about people being better advocates for their own health. They need to do research and study the pros and cons for themselves and not just believe whatever the doctor tells them. And while you point out harm from irresponsible clinics there is also a lot of harm being done by doctors who tell very guy who walks in their door with testosterone levels at 300 that they’re perfectly normal.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But again you don’t have numbers to back up your claims that “many IF NOT MOST” of these clinics are just pill mills. Or to back up your claim that “97% walk out with a prescription”. And yes I know you didn’t mean literally 97%, but understand that your point is that basically everyone gets one. If you send 100 25 year olds into most of these places I’d bet that a small amount of them get testosterone prescribed, and if they did their numbers would be really low for their age(though even then I would disagree with that being the first approach at that age). But instead you seem to be basing it on influencers. First of all, if you’re basing your views and reality on influencers then you’re going to have a distorted view. Secondly, if they are super jacked then they are almost certainly on more than just test and/or taking a lot more than is given by prescription. So they are likely being dishonest about a lot of things, not the least of which is where they’re getting their compounds.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So sure, we agree that there are some bad clinics. And we agree that wholeheartedly that people should be their own best advocates when it comes to health. However, I think you’re exaggerating the issue based on little more than social media influencers. And I’d say the data supports this because from what I’ve seen almost all new prescriptions given out over the past few years have been to guys that are 40+.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Phil Goodman, post: 277359, member: 42777"] Again, I agree that there are plenty of bad clinics out there. However, I would also reiterate that many are great and much better at helping people with hormonal issues than their doctor. And I agree 100% with your statement about people being better advocates for their own health. They need to do research and study the pros and cons for themselves and not just believe whatever the doctor tells them. And while you point out harm from irresponsible clinics there is also a lot of harm being done by doctors who tell very guy who walks in their door with testosterone levels at 300 that they’re perfectly normal. But again you don’t have numbers to back up your claims that “many IF NOT MOST” of these clinics are just pill mills. Or to back up your claim that “97% walk out with a prescription”. And yes I know you didn’t mean literally 97%, but understand that your point is that basically everyone gets one. If you send 100 25 year olds into most of these places I’d bet that a small amount of them get testosterone prescribed, and if they did their numbers would be really low for their age(though even then I would disagree with that being the first approach at that age). But instead you seem to be basing it on influencers. First of all, if you’re basing your views and reality on influencers then you’re going to have a distorted view. Secondly, if they are super jacked then they are almost certainly on more than just test and/or taking a lot more than is given by prescription. So they are likely being dishonest about a lot of things, not the least of which is where they’re getting their compounds. So sure, we agree that there are some bad clinics. And we agree that wholeheartedly that people should be their own best advocates when it comes to health. However, I think you’re exaggerating the issue based on little more than social media influencers. And I’d say the data supports this because from what I’ve seen almost all new prescriptions given out over the past few years have been to guys that are 40+. [/QUOTE]
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