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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
Is there any reason HCG could be making someone feel bad besides E2?
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<blockquote data-quote="torrential" data-source="post: 139090" data-attributes="member: 2752"><p></p><p></p><p>Let me stop you right there, partner. With all the noise out there, it's not so easy to distinguish opinion from fact. Here are a couple of facts that sometimes get lost:</p><p></p><p>- There is no evidence of Leydig cell desensitization in human males from HCG use. None. Nada. Nothing. There was a poorly run rat study in the 40's that keeps echoing on the interwebs.</p><p></p><p>- HCG has been used as a male fertility treatment since the 50's in doses of 5,000 and 10,000 IU weekly or more. Hundreds of thousands of men have been exposed to this therapy with positive results.</p><p></p><p>- HCG has been used for health related hormone modulation (HCG Monotherapy, HCG to augment TRT) for decades. Dr. Shippen, for example, started using it with his patients in the 70's. Others like Crisler followed those footsteps.</p><p></p><p>(I don't have hard evidence but I suspect more men were on HCG Monotherapy than were on TRT until relatively recently. HCG Mono is of no interest to body builders and has limited abuse potential. Guys just worked with their doctors, hence the relative quiet. Anyone who's been around long enough may remember posts from ancient days on other forums when lots of dudes were writing about converting from long term HCG Mono to TRT.)</p><p></p><p>Dose response, side effects, and impact of short and long term use are well understood in medical academic and practice circles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="torrential, post: 139090, member: 2752"] [I][/I] Let me stop you right there, partner. With all the noise out there, it's not so easy to distinguish opinion from fact. Here are a couple of facts that sometimes get lost: - There is no evidence of Leydig cell desensitization in human males from HCG use. None. Nada. Nothing. There was a poorly run rat study in the 40's that keeps echoing on the interwebs. - HCG has been used as a male fertility treatment since the 50's in doses of 5,000 and 10,000 IU weekly or more. Hundreds of thousands of men have been exposed to this therapy with positive results. - HCG has been used for health related hormone modulation (HCG Monotherapy, HCG to augment TRT) for decades. Dr. Shippen, for example, started using it with his patients in the 70's. Others like Crisler followed those footsteps. (I don't have hard evidence but I suspect more men were on HCG Monotherapy than were on TRT until relatively recently. HCG Mono is of no interest to body builders and has limited abuse potential. Guys just worked with their doctors, hence the relative quiet. Anyone who's been around long enough may remember posts from ancient days on other forums when lots of dudes were writing about converting from long term HCG Mono to TRT.) Dose response, side effects, and impact of short and long term use are well understood in medical academic and practice circles. [/QUOTE]
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