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jberger52

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Labs came back with estrdiol at 27, total testosterone 1300, free testosterone 21. However, I am trying to bulk up[ectomorph] so eating more than usual. Haven't lost any fat[small amount of abdominal and waist fat], but keep thinking my pec area is fattier, but no fullness in nipples. Any thughts?
 
So many questions to your post I don't know where to start.

Can you post your most recent blood work complete with ranges.

Interested most in E2 levels.

Diet low is shitty carbs high in protein?

HIT cardio?

HCG?

Use an AI?
 
Here are the labs that were drawn with ranges
Total testosterone 1383 Range 348-1197
Free Testosterone 21.3 Range 6.6-18.1
Estradiol 28.7 Range 7.6-42
DHEA 27.6 Range 48.9-344
Labs were sone at labcorp, no E2
Diet is in good carbs, High in protein[1gm/pound body weight]\5'9" 154lbs 62 yo
No AI, No HCG
Weights and cardio 3-4 times weekly
Any suggestions
 
I will tell you what helped really lean me out; when I added 300 mcg of Semorline to my protocol I really saw those stubborn 3 to 5 pounds melt off in 6 weeks.

There are good supplements you can take to help as well.

I really like Green Tea Extract (decaf).

Your labs look really good by the way, you are really dialed in

Learn why you need HCG on a TRT protocol...very important to your health.

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...tropin-Pregnenelone-and-DHEA-–-By-Gene-Devine
 
Gene thanks for the info. My doc here is not going to prescribe it, but I have an appointment with Defy medical in January to get started with them I see they are advocates. Meanwhile I am starting DHEA
 
Gene, what is your position about DHEA in transdermal application vs oral.......Duane


I used a TD for a couple of years with moderate results.

I read papers on DHEA and Preg by some of the top anti aging Docs who know these prohormones well and they recommend:

Each: 50 mg pills micronized slow release.

I had my Doc compound this for me with an additional 3 mg of selegiline as well.

Next BW my DHEA-S was twice the reference range...guess it worked.

He now only prescribes pill and no longer TD applications.
 

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