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While I know it’s very controversial still. I do believe to some degree that what [USER=42893]@RobRoy[/USER] speaks about with regards to receptors being clogged and edc and all the environmental factors Leading to why some of us need higher levels. I just try and use logic. If I didn’t have these symptoms and I had decent t levels. Then my t levels crash. But then only boosting my levels mid range offers me now relief. And even up at top it’s minimal. But I push higher than that all the sudden I feel like my old self again. How can that be detrimental. Especially when all my vitals and health parameters are in a good spot ?