Help me dial in without complete labs

[DS81]

Hey. First of all, thank you very much for this very informative forum. I really appreciate all the good topics and knowledge available here. Its amazing.

Im a 27year old male, living in Denmark. Ive had a history of longterm anabolic steroids usage, which resulted in my system never returning to normal function.

Ive got some bloods drawn the 17th of december last year, which showed low test, but my doctor told me to try'n wait it out;

SHBG: 21,8 nmol/L (ref. 17,3 - 65,8)
Testosteron (KPLL);P 9,35 nmol/L (ref. 8.02 - 25,50)
P-Testosteron/SHBG ratio: 0.429 (ref. 0.233 - 1.03)

No estradiol drawn for this test, but clearly I suffer from low test, which explains my cloudiness thinking, VERY low libido, bad mood and depression. No energy whatsoever.

Well, i tried waiting it out as my doc told me to, and these are the bloods I had drawn more than 6months later, 30 juni 2015.

SHBG: 34.4 nmol/L (ref. 17,3 - 65,8)
Testosteron (KPLL);P 10.60 nmol/L (ref. 8.02 - 25,50)
P-Testosteron/SHBG ratio: 0.308 (ref. 0.233 - 1.03)
Estradiol;P: 0.08 nmol/L (ref. XXX - 0.19)

At first when my doc told me to wait it out, I made a decision that I would look into TRT my self. I was very frustrated with my life, and I haven't had sex with a girl for almost to years, im afraid of not performing, and due to the low libido I also have very little interest in life(sex) in general.

So.

I decided to run a protocol of

67,5mg test-e, x2 weekly.
0.5 mg adex, x2 weekly.
250iu hCG, x2 weekly.

First shot was the 2nd of july, and boy what a sudden change in my energy. Some must have been placebo, but i felt great, and my testicles were tingling and i also thought alot about sex. I was also a lot stronger than usual, and my mind were finally thinking clearly again. Its hard to explain, but I guess you can relate.

These last days Ive been feeling horrible, so Im worried about my adex dose being to high. But hence the ester of enantathe, more test is getting released and so i shouldnt lower the adex dosage right? (i actually already did lower it to 0.25 twice a week!?)

Since i live in Denmark, its very hard to get proper medical advice, were so long behind in education on this field, so you guys are like all Ive got for advice.

If anyone from Denmark reads this and knows about a good doctor in Copenhagen area please reply.

I sleep well, eat well, train often etc etc. Not on any other medication.

I could use advice on my further journey down this TRT road. I want my libido back.

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the long post

BTW. I already did bloat quite alot overall.

 

[ERO]

1 mg of Adex weekly is a HUGE dose for TRT. At your dose of Test, you may not need an AI at all, or only a very low dose - perhaps less that 0.25 mg twice a week. I would stop Adex altogether for a few weeks and see how you feel. Only start it again if you feel nipple pain or other definite signs of high E2.

 

[DS81]

I stopped taking adex completely, and I still feel like shiet. No libido, no energy at all, very depressed.

Maybe my E2 lvls are high without me noticing passing the "sweet" spot? I have no idea about the timespan of these hormones going up and down.

Any advice?

Wait even longer.(if E2 is low, and coming back up) (How long can it take for E2 to go up?)

Dose very little Adex?(If E2 is high again??)

Labs are not an option at this point in my country.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I will find out if anyone knows a doctor in Denmark.

 

[DS81]

So, a little update from my side.

As I wrote earlier, I stopped taking arimidex completely, and waited for reactions. I began feeling better and better, energy/libido/mood was very good, but still not 100% stable.

I think that I passed the sweet spot and I now suffer from High E2. It sucks, but it is no way near as bad as low E2, holy crist that sucks.

How do I microdose arimidex? Ive heard something about dissolving a pill in vodka.

Lets say i dissolve a pill in 1ml vodka, how many drops should I try taking?

Apparently .25 mg of arimidex EOD or E3D is way to much for me, and theres still the half-life of adex to take in consideration.

Any help and advice appreciated!

David

 

[CoastWatcher]

Without labs you are simply guessing. It is like driving in the dark with no headlights - you are going somewhere but you don't have any idea when you'll get to your destination.