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<blockquote data-quote="PapiChulo" data-source="post: 233307" data-attributes="member: 44319"><p>in no way am I prescribing, advocating or advising others to do what I do. I was asked a question as to my experience and that was my frame of reference. Otherwise I appreciate your feedback. Truly. I am well aware of bodybuilders, gym rats, late hypogonadal and HIV positive men using all types of formulations, types of administration (pills, creams, injections) and routes of acquisition (e.g. online supply vs local CVS pharmacy). However they are never lifers like me. This is my normal life mot a muscle building strategy. The photo is of me. I trained for an NPC contest years ago and my trainer, an IFBB Pro, had access to everything under the sun including insulin, diuretics, metformin, etc. I chose none of his products but became aware of what some BB do, and I offer no judgment</p><p></p><p>With that said, Im open to ideas as I hate the IM q 10/14 days option. However, I follow evidenced based data, which is why I largely part company with others. If you can find it on Pubmed, we can talk. Otherwise Im an EBD diehard</p><p></p><p>Subq sounds attractive. I tried IVF under the guidance of a reproductive fertility physician, to have children and was prescribed HCG subq every 3 days for 6 months to raise my sperm count. It sucked worse than IM likely because of the frequency. Hated it. </p><p></p><p>Testosterone molecule is an aromatic steroid hormone based on the cholesterol molecule. Steroids (in the physiological sense of the word) have their mechanism of action at the nucleus of the cells where it can affect its efficacy at the DNA/RNA level. Test is useless if it fails to reach the nuclear genetic material. Injecting into skeletal muscle allows the drug to be delivered via a rich blood supply to its target tissue. Reaching a rich blood supply is key. I do not believe subcutaneous does that.</p><p></p><p>See:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.drugs.com/article/injection-types-sites.html[/URL]</p><p></p><h4>Subcutaneous: "sub" (under), "cutaneous" (skin). </h4><h4>Subcutaneous will deliver the anabolic oil under the skin where collagen and fat reside. There it will sit until it is exposed to blood which may happen later than desired, if ever. Add to this the ester, either cypionate or enanthate, which delivers the drug slowly, a subcutaneous delivery will drag things out considerably. If you are using your insulin needles to inject in your skeletal muscle, I dont know how you do it. When I use a 23G needle, the viscosity of the drug is too dense to push in the syringe. 25G is impossible. Insulin is 31G</h4><p></p><p>what am I missing here?</p><p></p><p>thanks for the welcome</p><h4></h4></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PapiChulo, post: 233307, member: 44319"] in no way am I prescribing, advocating or advising others to do what I do. I was asked a question as to my experience and that was my frame of reference. Otherwise I appreciate your feedback. Truly. I am well aware of bodybuilders, gym rats, late hypogonadal and HIV positive men using all types of formulations, types of administration (pills, creams, injections) and routes of acquisition (e.g. online supply vs local CVS pharmacy). However they are never lifers like me. This is my normal life mot a muscle building strategy. The photo is of me. I trained for an NPC contest years ago and my trainer, an IFBB Pro, had access to everything under the sun including insulin, diuretics, metformin, etc. I chose none of his products but became aware of what some BB do, and I offer no judgment With that said, Im open to ideas as I hate the IM q 10/14 days option. However, I follow evidenced based data, which is why I largely part company with others. If you can find it on Pubmed, we can talk. Otherwise Im an EBD diehard Subq sounds attractive. I tried IVF under the guidance of a reproductive fertility physician, to have children and was prescribed HCG subq every 3 days for 6 months to raise my sperm count. It sucked worse than IM likely because of the frequency. Hated it. Testosterone molecule is an aromatic steroid hormone based on the cholesterol molecule. Steroids (in the physiological sense of the word) have their mechanism of action at the nucleus of the cells where it can affect its efficacy at the DNA/RNA level. Test is useless if it fails to reach the nuclear genetic material. Injecting into skeletal muscle allows the drug to be delivered via a rich blood supply to its target tissue. Reaching a rich blood supply is key. I do not believe subcutaneous does that. See: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.drugs.com/article/injection-types-sites.html[/URL] [HEADING=3]Subcutaneous: "sub" (under), "cutaneous" (skin). [/HEADING] [HEADING=3]Subcutaneous will deliver the anabolic oil under the skin where collagen and fat reside. There it will sit until it is exposed to blood which may happen later than desired, if ever. Add to this the ester, either cypionate or enanthate, which delivers the drug slowly, a subcutaneous delivery will drag things out considerably. If you are using your insulin needles to inject in your skeletal muscle, I dont know how you do it. When I use a 23G needle, the viscosity of the drug is too dense to push in the syringe. 25G is impossible. Insulin is 31G[/HEADING] what am I missing here? thanks for the welcome [HEADING=3][/HEADING] [/QUOTE]
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