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<blockquote data-quote="Blackhawk" data-source="post: 233282" data-attributes="member: 16042"><p>Welcome.</p><p></p><p>I think you will find alternatives to your kind of routine presented here that tend to serve the needs of many men better than the kind of protocol you've been on for so long. You are expressing that the long 10 day injections schedule makes you crash. Most men experience the same even at 1/week interval. I even had trouble with every 3 days. This is a well know problem with old school protocols, and standard prescribing instructions, and why many men are unsuccessful with TRT. You do not need to use large needles, or inject large amounts and can be much more comfortable injecting more frequently.</p><p></p><p>If that photo is you, you are lean enough that 1/2" insulin syringes as small as 29 gauge will probably reach shallow IM in your Delts just fine. I can only imagine the needle fatigue you experience. Ugh! And in many men SubQ is just fine. If you are using a cottonseed oil base, 27g may be better. And to get off the roller coaster, many of us inject MUCH more frequently, as often as daily. Common variations are 2x/week, every 3 days, every other day and daily.</p><p></p><p>Individual protocols are just that, individual, and what works well for one, may or may not work well for you. The only way to find out is to try different things.</p><p></p><p>It may be a challenge to unwind your beliefs in how to manage a protocol. I think that your researcher's mind may uncover a lot from this forum. Of course there is also a lot of extraneous bunk and confirmation bias. A discerning approach is warranted.</p><p></p><p>As an extreme contrast to your protocol, I am currently on daily injections of a T-cyp/prop blend at 5.6mg/day injected subQ. This is the lowest dose I have ever taken. based on symptoms, it may be just under what I actually need, but I have co-morbidities, and sorting causation of symptoms can be challenging</p><p></p><p>Really happy to have an intelligent educated new member and willingness to share your experience! However, I personally would not be interested in your approach to a protocol! We know that this does not work out for many men.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackhawk, post: 233282, member: 16042"] Welcome. I think you will find alternatives to your kind of routine presented here that tend to serve the needs of many men better than the kind of protocol you've been on for so long. You are expressing that the long 10 day injections schedule makes you crash. Most men experience the same even at 1/week interval. I even had trouble with every 3 days. This is a well know problem with old school protocols, and standard prescribing instructions, and why many men are unsuccessful with TRT. You do not need to use large needles, or inject large amounts and can be much more comfortable injecting more frequently. If that photo is you, you are lean enough that 1/2" insulin syringes as small as 29 gauge will probably reach shallow IM in your Delts just fine. I can only imagine the needle fatigue you experience. Ugh! And in many men SubQ is just fine. If you are using a cottonseed oil base, 27g may be better. And to get off the roller coaster, many of us inject MUCH more frequently, as often as daily. Common variations are 2x/week, every 3 days, every other day and daily. Individual protocols are just that, individual, and what works well for one, may or may not work well for you. The only way to find out is to try different things. It may be a challenge to unwind your beliefs in how to manage a protocol. I think that your researcher's mind may uncover a lot from this forum. Of course there is also a lot of extraneous bunk and confirmation bias. A discerning approach is warranted. As an extreme contrast to your protocol, I am currently on daily injections of a T-cyp/prop blend at 5.6mg/day injected subQ. This is the lowest dose I have ever taken. based on symptoms, it may be just under what I actually need, but I have co-morbidities, and sorting causation of symptoms can be challenging Really happy to have an intelligent educated new member and willingness to share your experience! However, I personally would not be interested in your approach to a protocol! We know that this does not work out for many men. [/QUOTE]
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