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<blockquote data-quote="Vettester Chris" data-source="post: 15195" data-attributes="member: 696"><p>J, been meaning to say hi, and thank you for joining EM! Welcome to the community!!</p><p></p><p>I'm curious with how your testosterone numbers look on the HCG Mono program; both total serum & free? Also the E2 sensitive assay result would be good to see, as you mentioned you've had trouble keep this in check. I've read cases where "sometimes" intra-testicular E2 production can be problematic with the heavier HCG protocols, which in turn inhibits the effectiveness of any AI administration. </p><p></p><p>Also curious for the thinking behind the Tamox therapy in conjunction with HCG? Tamox, being a SERM (like Clomid) might be used when trying to promote LH secretion in the pituitary, BUT, obviously the HCG - 800iu/eod protocol is where you are getting the LH to promote endogenous testosterone. Thinking maybe you might be using it to mitigate receptor sensitivity in the nipple area as E2 surges? That's usually just a temporary thing, used sometimes in an estrogen rebound situation ... Hopefully the Tamox isn't being considered as the compound to counter aromatization?</p><p></p><p>It's definitely interesting, hoping we can learn more from you ... Thanks again for signing up!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vettester Chris, post: 15195, member: 696"] J, been meaning to say hi, and thank you for joining EM! Welcome to the community!! I'm curious with how your testosterone numbers look on the HCG Mono program; both total serum & free? Also the E2 sensitive assay result would be good to see, as you mentioned you've had trouble keep this in check. I've read cases where "sometimes" intra-testicular E2 production can be problematic with the heavier HCG protocols, which in turn inhibits the effectiveness of any AI administration. Also curious for the thinking behind the Tamox therapy in conjunction with HCG? Tamox, being a SERM (like Clomid) might be used when trying to promote LH secretion in the pituitary, BUT, obviously the HCG - 800iu/eod protocol is where you are getting the LH to promote endogenous testosterone. Thinking maybe you might be using it to mitigate receptor sensitivity in the nipple area as E2 surges? That's usually just a temporary thing, used sometimes in an estrogen rebound situation ... Hopefully the Tamox isn't being considered as the compound to counter aromatization? It's definitely interesting, hoping we can learn more from you ... Thanks again for signing up!! [/QUOTE]
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