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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Blood Test Discussion
HCG is not working anymore. Do I have antibodies to it?
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<blockquote data-quote="jimithing" data-source="post: 12609" data-attributes="member: 641"><p>So I met with my doc today. I was hoping to get a response on this forum as to why my numbers dropped. </p><p></p><p>My doc came up with a few potential reasons. </p><p>1) the vials of Hcg I was using somehow became inactive. I don't think this is very likely as it's been over multiple shipments and vials. </p><p>2) My body has down regulated receptors for the Hcg, and my testes aren't responding and that based on my current dose (450iu 3x a week) he would not expect a higher dose to make a difference</p><p>3)I have potentially developed antibodies to the Hcg which would render it inactive prior to it being able to stimulate testicular tissue. I have not heard of this before - anyone have any input on this?</p><p></p><p>Here are my options that he gave me. Keep in mind my wife and I are trying to conceive. She is having issues ovulating we've been working with a fertility specialist on her end the last 6 months. </p><p></p><p>A) Stop Hcg and everything all together and see how I respond. Im not all that inclined to do this but im not sure if i'd actually feel any worse than I do now as the Hcg doesn't seem to even be working.</p><p>B) Try a different name brand Hcg to rule out that the prior Hcg was active. Im not really interesed in this option as I don't think that's the reason. </p><p>C) Try Clomid 2-3 days per week and drop the Hcg. Clomid can help raise T levels also supporting sperm count.</p><p>D) Start T cyp therapy with or without HcG at 70-80mg 2x a week. Get a sperm rechecked in 2 months. He thinks that if I am going to have an issue with sperm that it we would start to see it around 2 months. </p><p></p><p>So Im inclined to start the T but my wife is not. She wasn't able to make my appt with me today so (i don't think) totally understands everything. My only concerns is this antibody thing that he's talking about - if that is the case then the HcG likely won't do anything even with T. </p><p></p><p>Again looking for thoughts on this particular question with regards to me potentially having antibodies to the Hcg. Obviously it's just a theory and hasn't been formally studied. But there are a lot of studies that have not been done in this field. He said he has colleagues in the HRT field that do believe in it. </p><p></p><p>I don't know if Lipshultz does long distance treatment but Im going to email his office and ask to try to get a 2nd opinion on this. </p><p>thanks</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jimithing, post: 12609, member: 641"] So I met with my doc today. I was hoping to get a response on this forum as to why my numbers dropped. My doc came up with a few potential reasons. 1) the vials of Hcg I was using somehow became inactive. I don't think this is very likely as it's been over multiple shipments and vials. 2) My body has down regulated receptors for the Hcg, and my testes aren't responding and that based on my current dose (450iu 3x a week) he would not expect a higher dose to make a difference 3)I have potentially developed antibodies to the Hcg which would render it inactive prior to it being able to stimulate testicular tissue. I have not heard of this before - anyone have any input on this? Here are my options that he gave me. Keep in mind my wife and I are trying to conceive. She is having issues ovulating we've been working with a fertility specialist on her end the last 6 months. A) Stop Hcg and everything all together and see how I respond. Im not all that inclined to do this but im not sure if i'd actually feel any worse than I do now as the Hcg doesn't seem to even be working. B) Try a different name brand Hcg to rule out that the prior Hcg was active. Im not really interesed in this option as I don't think that's the reason. C) Try Clomid 2-3 days per week and drop the Hcg. Clomid can help raise T levels also supporting sperm count. D) Start T cyp therapy with or without HcG at 70-80mg 2x a week. Get a sperm rechecked in 2 months. He thinks that if I am going to have an issue with sperm that it we would start to see it around 2 months. So Im inclined to start the T but my wife is not. She wasn't able to make my appt with me today so (i don't think) totally understands everything. My only concerns is this antibody thing that he's talking about - if that is the case then the HcG likely won't do anything even with T. Again looking for thoughts on this particular question with regards to me potentially having antibodies to the Hcg. Obviously it's just a theory and hasn't been formally studied. But there are a lot of studies that have not been done in this field. He said he has colleagues in the HRT field that do believe in it. I don't know if Lipshultz does long distance treatment but Im going to email his office and ask to try to get a 2nd opinion on this. thanks [/QUOTE]
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