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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
For discussion: Estrogen via the testes (not Aromatase)
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<blockquote data-quote="Vince Carter" data-source="post: 30607" data-attributes="member: 2657"><p>Background, prescribed by Dr Saya:</p><p>50mg TCyp EOD (AM)</p><p>12.5mg Test TD to the scrotum (AM; for DHT increase)</p><p>500iu HCG 2x week</p><p>50mg DHEA TD (AM)</p><p>50mg Preg TD (AM)</p><p>.15mg Anastrozole (prescribed "as needed", but is not used)</p><p></p><p>Now, the topic of HCG and how it can effect the production of Estrogen in the testes. This is something I believe in after reading it from other men, like myself, that feel HCG only complicates their E2 management and merely keeps the testes alive, which has numerous obvious benefits. Some reports in this group state that HCG has no impact on libido, penile sensitivity, or a feeling of increased well being. I feel better following Nelson's ratio theory and avoiding an AI unless negative symptoms are present.</p><p></p><p>I've used with the same results over 18 months: 250iu EOD, 400iu EOD, 100iu daily, 100iu 2x week, 500iu 2x Week (most recent use).</p><p></p><p>The experiment: at bedtime (9pm): 750iu HCG SQ E3.5D, plus .15mg Anastrozole.</p><p></p><p>The result: no increase in penile sensitivity, no increase in libido, no increase in well being. All anecdotal evidence, no "testing" was done to support a conclusion.</p><p></p><p><strong>Notable negative side effect:</strong> on the night of the injection, and only that night, each of the three nights having injected 750iu HCG plus .15mg Anastrozole (oral, of course), I woke in a cold sweat. Hair wet, pillow wet, T-shirt wet, yet cold under the blanket. Subsequent nights were a return to what is my norm, no cold sweats or hot flashes.</p><p></p><p>Logical conclusion: This would seem to indicate a spike in E2 only hours after the HCG injection, which should only be the result of stimulated Estrogen production in the testes, NOT the aromatase enzyme. Further anecdotal evidence suggests as I thought, Anastrozole may not impact that source of Estrogen. Granted that 750iu is a hefty dose.</p><p></p><p>Just food for thought and discussion. I thought it interesting. I don't advocate shooting 750iu of HCG as being something you should do, it is obviously a much higher dose than most on TRT will use.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vince Carter, post: 30607, member: 2657"] Background, prescribed by Dr Saya: 50mg TCyp EOD (AM) 12.5mg Test TD to the scrotum (AM; for DHT increase) 500iu HCG 2x week 50mg DHEA TD (AM) 50mg Preg TD (AM) .15mg Anastrozole (prescribed "as needed", but is not used) Now, the topic of HCG and how it can effect the production of Estrogen in the testes. This is something I believe in after reading it from other men, like myself, that feel HCG only complicates their E2 management and merely keeps the testes alive, which has numerous obvious benefits. Some reports in this group state that HCG has no impact on libido, penile sensitivity, or a feeling of increased well being. I feel better following Nelson's ratio theory and avoiding an AI unless negative symptoms are present. I've used with the same results over 18 months: 250iu EOD, 400iu EOD, 100iu daily, 100iu 2x week, 500iu 2x Week (most recent use). The experiment: at bedtime (9pm): 750iu HCG SQ E3.5D, plus .15mg Anastrozole. The result: no increase in penile sensitivity, no increase in libido, no increase in well being. All anecdotal evidence, no "testing" was done to support a conclusion. [B]Notable negative side effect:[/B] on the night of the injection, and only that night, each of the three nights having injected 750iu HCG plus .15mg Anastrozole (oral, of course), I woke in a cold sweat. Hair wet, pillow wet, T-shirt wet, yet cold under the blanket. Subsequent nights were a return to what is my norm, no cold sweats or hot flashes. Logical conclusion: This would seem to indicate a spike in E2 only hours after the HCG injection, which should only be the result of stimulated Estrogen production in the testes, NOT the aromatase enzyme. Further anecdotal evidence suggests as I thought, Anastrozole may not impact that source of Estrogen. Granted that 750iu is a hefty dose. Just food for thought and discussion. I thought it interesting. I don't advocate shooting 750iu of HCG as being something you should do, it is obviously a much higher dose than most on TRT will use. [/QUOTE]
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