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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
First time using TRT and thinking about adjusting the dosage
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 108190" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>I would say a lot of these so called T mills are run by people who basically throw men on high doses from the get go hence why an added a.i. seems to be a common part of the picture.</p><p></p><p>Basically they are jacking men up to achieve super high t levels and at first most men may feel well but again if the a.i. dose is too high which it usually is the protocol is a disaster from the beginning.</p><p></p><p>For the so called lucky men that at least get a more reasonable a.i. dose prescribed they usually feel amazing in the begining but after some time things usually go south.</p><p></p><p>Another underlying issue which tarnishes reasonable trt doses is building muscle as most men want to gain muscle/strength and its human nature to want to attain the best results and many men think that having their testosterone levels super high is the key to success regarding gains in muscle/strength in the gym and that they will all of a sudden be a raging sex machine and very low t symptom will be a thing of the past as in the "more is better approach".</p><p></p><p>Sure having healthy testosterone levels from trt as we know will allow someone to attain great improvements in body composition whether gaining muscle/strength or losing body fat along with a healthy diet/training but it is not the same as using high doses of testosterone as in cycling or blasting/cruising and having very high supra-physiological levels where one would be able to achieve big gains in muscle/strength and enhanced recovery.</p><p></p><p>There is no comparison between having testosterone levels in the high/normal physiological range 900-1200 ng/dl to having testosterone levels in the extremely high supra-physiological range 2000-5000 ng/dl when it comes to results one would achieve in gains muscle/strength or recovery abilities.....it is like night and day.</p><p></p><p>Very few men need 200mg/week of testosterone as that dose would put most mens levels into the 1800+ range and even though most would consider 250mg/week a mild testosterone cycle and a more common dose when using/abusing testosterone is in the 400-600mg range there are some men with great genetics that can make really good gains in muscle/strength using 200 mg/week.</p><p></p><p>Back in Arnolds era it was said that many would only use 200-400mg/week of testosterone and basic stacks were test/deca/d-bol or various combinations especially deca/d-bol.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 108190, member: 13851"] I would say a lot of these so called T mills are run by people who basically throw men on high doses from the get go hence why an added a.i. seems to be a common part of the picture. Basically they are jacking men up to achieve super high t levels and at first most men may feel well but again if the a.i. dose is too high which it usually is the protocol is a disaster from the beginning. For the so called lucky men that at least get a more reasonable a.i. dose prescribed they usually feel amazing in the begining but after some time things usually go south. Another underlying issue which tarnishes reasonable trt doses is building muscle as most men want to gain muscle/strength and its human nature to want to attain the best results and many men think that having their testosterone levels super high is the key to success regarding gains in muscle/strength in the gym and that they will all of a sudden be a raging sex machine and very low t symptom will be a thing of the past as in the "more is better approach". Sure having healthy testosterone levels from trt as we know will allow someone to attain great improvements in body composition whether gaining muscle/strength or losing body fat along with a healthy diet/training but it is not the same as using high doses of testosterone as in cycling or blasting/cruising and having very high supra-physiological levels where one would be able to achieve big gains in muscle/strength and enhanced recovery. There is no comparison between having testosterone levels in the high/normal physiological range 900-1200 ng/dl to having testosterone levels in the extremely high supra-physiological range 2000-5000 ng/dl when it comes to results one would achieve in gains muscle/strength or recovery abilities.....it is like night and day. Very few men need 200mg/week of testosterone as that dose would put most mens levels into the 1800+ range and even though most would consider 250mg/week a mild testosterone cycle and a more common dose when using/abusing testosterone is in the 400-600mg range there are some men with great genetics that can make really good gains in muscle/strength using 200 mg/week. Back in Arnolds era it was said that many would only use 200-400mg/week of testosterone and basic stacks were test/deca/d-bol or various combinations especially deca/d-bol. [/QUOTE]
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