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First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry
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<blockquote data-quote="TLR" data-source="post: 276917" data-attributes="member: 550"><p>Man….let me be gone awhile and come back and see a good thread (it had been dragging around here for a bit)! All I have is my 13 years of personal experience to offer. I’m in no way a textbook study, and I’m similar to Charliebizz in many ways. I’m on my second well known TRT doc, and seem to be one of those “hard cases” (lucky me). </p><p></p><p>I have preexisting anxiety that seems to be exacerbated by higher levels, and my erectile function seems to be affected by E2 once it reaches the upper 30s / 40s (although I stop short of blaming the E2 all the way….it could very well be the T level).</p><p></p><p>Which leads me to where I come down on this….like most things there is a “bell curve” and typical protocols will work for the majority of men. I have NUMEROUS friends that are on the cookie cutter 1/2 cc once a week and they cruise along just fine. I have a former boss that does 250 mg a week and has no problems. As we always say everybody is different, and I don’t care what any doctor tells you, they don’t have all of the answers on why that is and what exactly to do about it because there is still so much about this we DONT know. </p><p></p><p>We are dealing with a lot of unknowns tinkering with Mother Nature and hormones. I don’t believe the overwhelming majority of guys will screw themselves up too badly in the long haul unless they go way off the reservation, but again, I’m totally guessing because the type of LONG TERM studies we need don’t exist, and has been mentioned, may never exist due to ethical and liability reasons. </p><p></p><p>I agree with the start low / go slow, minimum effective dose philosophy, but I’m open minded enough that some people will need more, and some people can tolerate enough to kill a moose and their health markers will be fine. </p><p></p><p>I too am somewhat enamored with Rob Roy’s (let’s just call him Dr Nichols) thoughts, and from what I have seen I agree that he seems to care about his patients….I have also searched for negative reviews from people who were former patients and have not found any. I know he doesn’t have time to sit and have a cocktail and answer my questions, but I have considered having myself managed by him on more than one occasion….the thing that stops me is I have spent so much money on the two doctors I have gone to that I don’t feel like spending $500 just to talk (which is a me problem and has nothing to do with him.)</p><p></p><p>I had the perception of him for awhile that he was just all about blowing all of your levels through the roof till you felt good, and I still have some questions about some things he says. However, after listening to him more I have softened on that stance quite a bit. </p><p></p><p>At the end of the day, do what works for you, be patient, seek out a good doc, keep expectations in line, keep an open mind and good luck!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TLR, post: 276917, member: 550"] Man….let me be gone awhile and come back and see a good thread (it had been dragging around here for a bit)! All I have is my 13 years of personal experience to offer. I’m in no way a textbook study, and I’m similar to Charliebizz in many ways. I’m on my second well known TRT doc, and seem to be one of those “hard cases” (lucky me). I have preexisting anxiety that seems to be exacerbated by higher levels, and my erectile function seems to be affected by E2 once it reaches the upper 30s / 40s (although I stop short of blaming the E2 all the way….it could very well be the T level). Which leads me to where I come down on this….like most things there is a “bell curve” and typical protocols will work for the majority of men. I have NUMEROUS friends that are on the cookie cutter 1/2 cc once a week and they cruise along just fine. I have a former boss that does 250 mg a week and has no problems. As we always say everybody is different, and I don’t care what any doctor tells you, they don’t have all of the answers on why that is and what exactly to do about it because there is still so much about this we DONT know. We are dealing with a lot of unknowns tinkering with Mother Nature and hormones. I don’t believe the overwhelming majority of guys will screw themselves up too badly in the long haul unless they go way off the reservation, but again, I’m totally guessing because the type of LONG TERM studies we need don’t exist, and has been mentioned, may never exist due to ethical and liability reasons. I agree with the start low / go slow, minimum effective dose philosophy, but I’m open minded enough that some people will need more, and some people can tolerate enough to kill a moose and their health markers will be fine. I too am somewhat enamored with Rob Roy’s (let’s just call him Dr Nichols) thoughts, and from what I have seen I agree that he seems to care about his patients….I have also searched for negative reviews from people who were former patients and have not found any. I know he doesn’t have time to sit and have a cocktail and answer my questions, but I have considered having myself managed by him on more than one occasion….the thing that stops me is I have spent so much money on the two doctors I have gone to that I don’t feel like spending $500 just to talk (which is a me problem and has nothing to do with him.) I had the perception of him for awhile that he was just all about blowing all of your levels through the roof till you felt good, and I still have some questions about some things he says. However, after listening to him more I have softened on that stance quite a bit. At the end of the day, do what works for you, be patient, seek out a good doc, keep expectations in line, keep an open mind and good luck! [/QUOTE]
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