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Ipi How old are you?

I am not sure what you muscle and bone pain would be I am assuming you have gotten a diagnosis for that issue. I was under 200 when I started on TRT and didn't have any muscle or bone pain as you describe.

HCG is not the same as Cyp and they do not even come close to working the same. I would suggest you read the information on the site on both Cyp and HCG so you have a clear understanding how they work or get Nelson's book.

I was on Cyp for almost 3 years before going on HCG. I went on HCG for testicular atrophy (ball shrink).
There are some people who (like me) cyp does not last as long as others. there are some guys who can do weekly or even two week shots without any effects or swings up and down. I am sure Nelson or others will chime in on your ask.

[QUOTE="SoCalSurfer, post: 24784, member: 268"] Ipi How old are you? I am not sure what you muscle and bone pain would be I am assuming you have gotten a diagnosis for that issue. I was under 200 when I started on TRT and didn't have any muscle or bone pain as you describe. HCG is not the same as Cyp and they do not even come close to working the same. I would suggest you read the information on the site on both Cyp and HCG so you have a clear understanding how they work or get Nelson's book. I was on Cyp for almost 3 years before going on HCG. I went on HCG for testicular atrophy (ball shrink). There are some people who (like me) cyp does not last as long as others. there are some guys who can do weekly or even two week shots without any effects or swings up and down. I am sure Nelson or others will chime in on your ask. [/QUOTE]

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Understanding Your Hormones

Estradiol (E2)

A form of estrogen produced from testosterone. Important for bone health, mood, and libido. Too high can cause side effects; too low can affect well-being.

DHT

Dihydrotestosterone is a potent androgen derived from testosterone. Affects hair growth, prostate health, and masculinization effects.

Free Testosterone

The biologically active form of testosterone not bound to proteins. Directly available for cellular uptake and biological effects.

Scientific Reference

Lakshman KM, Kaplan B, Travison TG, Basaria S, Knapp PE, Singh AB, LaValley MP, Mazer NA, Bhasin S. The effects of injected testosterone dose and age on the conversion of testosterone to estradiol and dihydrotestosterone in young and older men. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2010 Aug;95(8):3955-64.

DOI: 10.1210/jc.2010-0102 | PMID: 20534765 | PMCID: PMC2913038