Elevated estradiol on clomid

[Trtnewbie]

Hello everyone,

first of all thank you to everyone who contributes to this forum. I've learned quite a bit from you all. Anyway, I've been on clomid for about 6 weeks (started at 25mg daily, and now 25 mg eod for the past 2 weeks. Here are some numbers

before starting (quest)
total test 228 ( 250- 1100)
free test 46.8(35-155)
shbg. 21 (10-50)
estradiol. 23(0-39)

after 6 weeks(labcorp ordered myself through discounted labs.com)
total test 393 ( 348 - 1197)
free test 17.3(6.8-21.5)
estradiol sensitive 56.2 (8.0-35.0)

so so it seems that test rose a little bit but estradiol rose more. Not sure what to do at this point as I don't feel any better or worse compared to when I started the clomid. I have another follow up with doc in 6 weeks. Not sure if I should just ride it out status quo, lower clomid dosage or call doc and ask him to just start on test cypionate and see how that works until my next blood work in 6 weeks. Any advice would be great!

 

[ERO]

Clomid does not seem to be bringing your Test up to any useful levels, so Test cypionate, ideally twice weekly is likely going to be a better option for you. Someone here more familiar with Clomid than myself may chime in, but I think that if you have used it for 6 weeks and its only brought your total T up to 393, then it is not really a good solution in your case.

 

[Vince]

Here's a good post on clomid https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?1211-Clomid-and-Cialis
I know three things to do that may help to lower your estrogen, supplement with zinc, lose bellyfat and use cialis https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?1884-Where-to-Buy-Cheaper-Generic-Cialis

 

[Trtnewbie]

Clomid does not seem to be bringing your Test up to any useful levels, so Test cypionate, ideally twice weekly is likely going to be a better option for you. Someone here more familiar with Clomid than myself may chime in, but I think that if you have used it for 6 weeks and its only brought your total T up to 393, then it is not really a good solution in your case.

Thanks ero. I agree that clomid isn't having as much affect as I would like (although free T seems good). I was worried that estradiol might shoot up even higher with test cyp.

 

[Trtnewbie]

Thanks for the link Vince. I'm already supplementing with zinc but I definitely have lots of fat to lose. Probably 25lbs or more. I lift weights 4x a week currently and walk for about an hour 4-5 xs a week. I'm trying to chip away at the fat but will the elevated estradiol make that even more difficult?

 

[Vince]

I eat low carb to keep my weight under control and my lipid panel good but there are some that eat zero carbs.
http://myzerocarblife.jamesdhogan.com/wp/start/

 

[ERO]

Clomid mono therapy commonly makes for high E2, in fact, it is often given with a small dose of AI - Test cyp at a usual TRT starting dose of 100 mg/week is normally less likely to spike E2, especially on a twice weekly dosing schedule. (50mg every 3.5 days) Getting your total T up to 700 or more is going to make you feel a lot better than the 393 you are at now.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

TRTnewbie

What are you trying to accomplish? PCT? Increased fertility? Avoiding gels and injections?

 

[Trtnewbie]

TRTnewbie

What are you trying to accomplish? PCT? Increased fertility? Avoiding gels and injections?

Nelson, my only goal is to be healthy and energetic. Fertility is not so important because I'm 99% sure I'm done having kids. I'm not averse to injections but I have no interest in other delivery methods for test. I think I just wanted to try clomid before injections to see if the old testes still work.

 

[James]

Trtnewbie - any LH or FSH labs? Why did the doc think it was better to try clomid?

 

[Trtnewbie]

Trtnewbie - any LH or FSH labs? Why did the doc think it was better to try clomid?

James, I think it was actually me more than my doc. He was suggesting testoserone but I asked if it would be worth it to try clomid initially just to see if it would work. The more I think about it, the more i think it's time to start injections. I wonder if I will aromatize at the same amount,more or less with injections vs clomid.

 

[James]

Did he do LH and FSH to get an idea if it might be primary or secondary?

 

[Trtnewbie]

Did he do LH and FSH to get an idea if it might be primary or secondary?

Not on my initial bloodwork, just for my follow up which is in about 5 weeks.