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ED, No Libido, Seeing A Urologist Now
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 197300" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Look over post #46 again because you are clearly confused.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>I just wanted to post my most recent labs.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><u>All of these labs are from being on my new protocol which is</u>:</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Test Cyp 70mg</strong></p><p><strong>Deca 35mg</strong></p><p><strong>Anastrozol 0.25mg</strong></p><p><strong>Every 4 days.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><u>This would be a full 24 days and on a trough</u>. (All Labs From March 9, 2021)</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again when tweaking a protocol (dose T/injection frequency) hormones will be in flux during the weeks leading up until blood levels stabilize (4-6 weeks)..... then blood work is done to see where the said protocol has your trough TT, FT, estradiol let alone other hormones and blood markers.</p><p></p><p>You are only 24 days in since upping your weekly T dose 130--->140 mg/week (65 mg--->70 mg every 3.5 days) let alone you added another AAS (ND).</p><p></p><p>Pointless to get labs sooner as your blood levels from the injectable esterified T have not stabilized yet let alone blood levels nandrolone will take even longer to stabilize due to the decanoate ester.</p><p></p><p>Even then looking over your current labs you did not even use the correct assay for TT (LC/MS-MS) which would be needed to see where your TT level truly sits.</p><p></p><p>Your doctor ordered the standard assay for TT which will overinflate your testosterone levels due to the nandrolone!</p><p></p><p>We have absolutely no idea where your TT level truly sits.</p><p></p><p>What is even worse is that your FT was not even tested.....go figure!</p><p></p><p>As I have stated numerous times although TT is important to know FT is what truly matters as it is the active unbound fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive effects.</p><p></p><p>It is critical to know where your FT level truly sits and the only way is to use the most accurate assays such as the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration (next best).</p><p></p><p>Especially when using nandrolone with a trt protocol than it is a must to use the most accurate assays for TT (LC-MS/MS) and FT (Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration) otherwise your results will be overinflated.</p><p></p><p>Regarding your RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit you can clearly see that levels are near the top-end and again you did labs way too soon.</p><p></p><p>When using exogenous T RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit will increase within the 1st month and can take up to 9-12 months to reach peak levels.</p><p></p><p>Any time T dose is increased it will drive up RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit further and top it all off that nandrolone (depending on the dose used) can also drive up levels and as I stated earlier you would need to give it a few months for blood levels to stabilize on the nandrolone.</p><p></p><p>Even then when it comes to RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit I would give it 12 weeks before getting labs, especially when using ND.</p><p></p><p>As I stated in post #46 you have low SHBG 14.7nmol/L and I would bet that your FT level was very high on your previous lab's TT 800s (T only protocol 130 mg/week).</p><p></p><p>Now you went and upped your T dose 130--->140 mg/week plus threw in the ND (70 mg/week).</p><p></p><p>140 mg T/week (70 mg every 3.5 days) is going to have your FT let alone e2 very high yet you continue to take an AI to control it!</p><p></p><p>The icing on the cake is you were always struggling to manage hematocrit.</p><p></p><p>T only protocol (enanthate/cypionate esters) than blood work done at 6 weeks. Blood levels from the ND will take longer to stabilize let alone drive up RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit (depending on dose/individual).</p><p></p><p>You are only 24 days in!</p><p></p><p>This is a complete mess.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 197300, member: 13851"] Look over post #46 again because you are clearly confused. [B]I just wanted to post my most recent labs. [U]All of these labs are from being on my new protocol which is[/U]: Test Cyp 70mg Deca 35mg Anastrozol 0.25mg Every 4 days. [U]This would be a full 24 days and on a trough[/U]. (All Labs From March 9, 2021)[/B] Again when tweaking a protocol (dose T/injection frequency) hormones will be in flux during the weeks leading up until blood levels stabilize (4-6 weeks)..... then blood work is done to see where the said protocol has your trough TT, FT, estradiol let alone other hormones and blood markers. You are only 24 days in since upping your weekly T dose 130--->140 mg/week (65 mg--->70 mg every 3.5 days) let alone you added another AAS (ND). Pointless to get labs sooner as your blood levels from the injectable esterified T have not stabilized yet let alone blood levels nandrolone will take even longer to stabilize due to the decanoate ester. Even then looking over your current labs you did not even use the correct assay for TT (LC/MS-MS) which would be needed to see where your TT level truly sits. Your doctor ordered the standard assay for TT which will overinflate your testosterone levels due to the nandrolone! We have absolutely no idea where your TT level truly sits. What is even worse is that your FT was not even tested.....go figure! As I have stated numerous times although TT is important to know FT is what truly matters as it is the active unbound fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive effects. It is critical to know where your FT level truly sits and the only way is to use the most accurate assays such as the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration (next best). Especially when using nandrolone with a trt protocol than it is a must to use the most accurate assays for TT (LC-MS/MS) and FT (Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration) otherwise your results will be overinflated. Regarding your RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit you can clearly see that levels are near the top-end and again you did labs way too soon. When using exogenous T RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit will increase within the 1st month and can take up to 9-12 months to reach peak levels. Any time T dose is increased it will drive up RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit further and top it all off that nandrolone (depending on the dose used) can also drive up levels and as I stated earlier you would need to give it a few months for blood levels to stabilize on the nandrolone. Even then when it comes to RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit I would give it 12 weeks before getting labs, especially when using ND. As I stated in post #46 you have low SHBG 14.7nmol/L and I would bet that your FT level was very high on your previous lab's TT 800s (T only protocol 130 mg/week). Now you went and upped your T dose 130--->140 mg/week plus threw in the ND (70 mg/week). 140 mg T/week (70 mg every 3.5 days) is going to have your FT let alone e2 very high yet you continue to take an AI to control it! The icing on the cake is you were always struggling to manage hematocrit. T only protocol (enanthate/cypionate esters) than blood work done at 6 weeks. Blood levels from the ND will take longer to stabilize let alone drive up RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit (depending on dose/individual). You are only 24 days in! This is a complete mess. [/QUOTE]
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