ZizshitWork
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Please pardon some asshole just venting, but it's probably all I can do.
I can't express how much I envy you guys who get good results from TRT. Especially within weeks or months. I've been on so-called TRT for 3 years and feel no discernible difference that is even remotely noteworthy. Well, I have gained nearly 3/16-1/4 inch in my arms, and have noticed a noticeable dip in my checking account, but beyond that it's like a 3-yr placebo test. Primary had me on Andrgel, then switched to injections every two weeks , then I switched to Defy for a couple years and it's been 'interesting'. Good luck with the "and somebody will get back to you", sometimes, but not often. Any changes appear to be done in 6 month intervals, so if you're far from being dialed in it appears the time frame for the potential of feeling good (whatever that is) is likely to be a few years. When I research the efficacy of various meds I learn the time to reach therapeutic levels surely doesn't take 1/2 year or years to see some results which has made me wonder what the real-world time ranges are to see results for a given med or protocol. I always place my expectations on the outside of a range and I'm still disappointed. Such as, if something averages 1-3 months for results I'll tell myself to wait at least 4 months before I'll think it's not doing shit. Then I'll always hear "things take time". Of course they do, common sense tells you nothing happens overnight. But hell, if I were one of you guys who sees a result for something in a matter of weeks or months I'd feel so lucky I'd probably go play the lotto. I feel VERY much a cookie cutter approach, which is probably fine for many otherwise that approach likely wouldn't be utilized. I imagine. My mindset all along had been "if I only wind up feeling HALF as good as all the posts I read here it'll be 10 times better than I feel now, and I'll be happy just to attain that". My regimen is pretty basic & predictable; I'm told I'm on 200/week, but if ya do the math it's actually 180. EOD gives you 4 injections per week, so .2 x's EOD is 180, not 200. Obviously not going to make a difference but just throwing it out there. Along with 300 HCG and 1/8 AI 2x's per week. Pretty basic. The Defy's prices are probably pretty darn good, but it's more than 10 times the cost of going through my insurance which I was able to do up until recently. And since Defy no longer does pre-authorizations for scrips I'm doubly out of luck. I'd already cut out dinners, socializing and cable to fund my TRT experiment so out-of-pocket is not currently an option. And, I'm selling my home, motorcycles, pretty much all I own so I can look for a small 1-bedroom place in order to free up funds just in case I DO find a TRT alternative to jump on. Who knows, I might find an avenue I haven't tried yet. If not, oh well, I tried. In the mean time I feel like I'd been talked into some timeshare type pitch with a perpetual "stick with it and you'll feel better" mantra wherein the reality is it 'might' work for 'some' people at best. Hate to admit it, but it does make me feel pretty stupid that I fell for it.
I've done pretty well at not chiming in on various posts, nobody needs my input anyway, so I just click & read and wonder how much of all the positive outcome is real. If it is, damn do I envy you guys. Maybe some guys just can't be 'fixed'.
No replies needed, just venting.
I can't express how much I envy you guys who get good results from TRT. Especially within weeks or months. I've been on so-called TRT for 3 years and feel no discernible difference that is even remotely noteworthy. Well, I have gained nearly 3/16-1/4 inch in my arms, and have noticed a noticeable dip in my checking account, but beyond that it's like a 3-yr placebo test. Primary had me on Andrgel, then switched to injections every two weeks , then I switched to Defy for a couple years and it's been 'interesting'. Good luck with the "and somebody will get back to you", sometimes, but not often. Any changes appear to be done in 6 month intervals, so if you're far from being dialed in it appears the time frame for the potential of feeling good (whatever that is) is likely to be a few years. When I research the efficacy of various meds I learn the time to reach therapeutic levels surely doesn't take 1/2 year or years to see some results which has made me wonder what the real-world time ranges are to see results for a given med or protocol. I always place my expectations on the outside of a range and I'm still disappointed. Such as, if something averages 1-3 months for results I'll tell myself to wait at least 4 months before I'll think it's not doing shit. Then I'll always hear "things take time". Of course they do, common sense tells you nothing happens overnight. But hell, if I were one of you guys who sees a result for something in a matter of weeks or months I'd feel so lucky I'd probably go play the lotto. I feel VERY much a cookie cutter approach, which is probably fine for many otherwise that approach likely wouldn't be utilized. I imagine. My mindset all along had been "if I only wind up feeling HALF as good as all the posts I read here it'll be 10 times better than I feel now, and I'll be happy just to attain that". My regimen is pretty basic & predictable; I'm told I'm on 200/week, but if ya do the math it's actually 180. EOD gives you 4 injections per week, so .2 x's EOD is 180, not 200. Obviously not going to make a difference but just throwing it out there. Along with 300 HCG and 1/8 AI 2x's per week. Pretty basic. The Defy's prices are probably pretty darn good, but it's more than 10 times the cost of going through my insurance which I was able to do up until recently. And since Defy no longer does pre-authorizations for scrips I'm doubly out of luck. I'd already cut out dinners, socializing and cable to fund my TRT experiment so out-of-pocket is not currently an option. And, I'm selling my home, motorcycles, pretty much all I own so I can look for a small 1-bedroom place in order to free up funds just in case I DO find a TRT alternative to jump on. Who knows, I might find an avenue I haven't tried yet. If not, oh well, I tried. In the mean time I feel like I'd been talked into some timeshare type pitch with a perpetual "stick with it and you'll feel better" mantra wherein the reality is it 'might' work for 'some' people at best. Hate to admit it, but it does make me feel pretty stupid that I fell for it.
I've done pretty well at not chiming in on various posts, nobody needs my input anyway, so I just click & read and wonder how much of all the positive outcome is real. If it is, damn do I envy you guys. Maybe some guys just can't be 'fixed'.
No replies needed, just venting.
