Cypionate vs enanthate, is one better than the other?

[Mark David]

Understanding that the half- life of Enanthate is shorter than Cyp, if one is dosing 2 or more times a week IM, is one better than the other, less side effects etc...?

 

[Systemlord]

I have heard body builders say enanthate causes less fluid retention. I’m a unicorn and can tell a big difference between enanthate and cypionate.

The cypionate feels more potent which probably has to do with the slightly longer half-life.

I needed more of the enanthate to get similar levels as on cypionate.

 

[Mark David]

I have heard body builders say enanthate causes less fluid retention. I’m a unicorn and can tell a big difference between enanthate and cypionate.

The cypionate feels more potent which probably has to do with the slightly longer half-life.

I needed more of the enanthate to get similar levels as on cypionate.

Thanks for the reply! How much more E vs cyp for same levels, like 20%? I'm planning on pinning 3x a week or every other day to start.

 

[Systemlord]

How much more E vs cyp for same levels, like 20%?

That sounds about right.

 

[madman]

Understanding that the half- life of Enanthate is shorter than Cyp, if one is dosing 2 or more times a week IM, is one better than the other, less side effects etc...?

There is no better and it would come down to personal preference.

Some prefer TE over TC or vice versa.

Sensitivity to the ester or excipients may come into play.

Many claims that they tend to retain more water when using TC.

Although cypionate has a slightly longer half-life they are basically interchangeable.

Most men on TRT would start on 100 mg/week TC or TE.

Many may choose to inject more frequently such as twice weekly (every 3.5 days), M/W/F, EOD, or even daily.

For those injecting more frequently some are using <100 mg T/week.

*100 mg TC minus the ester= 70 mg (approx free equivalent)

*100 mg TE minus the ester= 72 mg (approx free equivalent)

Would not fret over the 2 mg T/week!

Pick an ester and stick to 100mg T/week.

There will always be room to increase your dose if need be.

Whether you end up struggling with sides comes down to how high of an FT level you are running!

Also, keep in mind your injection frequency and peak--->trough TT/FT!

 

[Mark David]

There is no better and it would come down to personal preference.

Some prefer TE over TC or vice versa.

Sensitivity to the ester or excipients may come into play.

Many claims that they tend to retain more water when using TC.

Although cypionate has a slightly longer half-life they are basically interchangeable.

Most men on TRT would start on 100 mg/week TC or TE.

Many may choose to inject more frequently such as twice weekly (every 3.5 days), M/W/F, EOD, or even daily.

For those injecting more frequently some are using <100 mg T/week.

*100 mg TC minus the ester= 70 mg (approx free equivalent)

*100 mg TE minus the ester= 72 mg (approx free equivalent)

Would not fret over the 2 mg T/week!

Pick an ester and stick to 100mg T/week.

There will always be room to increase your dose if need be.

Whether you end up struggling with sides comes down to how high of an FT level you are running!

Also, keep in mind your injection frequency and peak--->trough TT/FT!

Thanks! I was planning on starting with 100mg. either 3x or EOD IM, no AI and go from there.