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Complete apathy/depression from too high E2?
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<blockquote data-quote="Gman86" data-source="post: 185155" data-attributes="member: 15043"><p>What’s ur SHBG level at?</p><p></p><p>Ya it’s definitely possible that 168mg per week isn’t enough. It’s rare, but some people need 250mg-300mg/ week to get their levels in a healthy range. Again, very rare. Just saying everyone metabolizes testosterone differently. Checkout the TRT and hormone optimization YouTube channel and FB group. There’s 2 guys that run them. One of them is Danny Bossa, and I believe he needs at least 250mg of test to get his free T to the top of the range. </p><p></p><p>My numbers prior to TRT were somewhat close to urs. Total at close to 700c SHBG around 55, free T at the bottom of the range, and on another test below the bottom of the range. I felt absolutely horrible with those free T levels, despite having a pretty healthy total. </p><p></p><p>I’ve tried every protocol in the book. I started feeling better as soon as I got my free T up. Even when free T wasn’t optimal, I still felt better than pre HRT. For me, I’ve found that to feel my best, I need total T at least at 1600. Usually a bit higher. And I feel my best with free T in the mid 40’s in the labcorp range (8.7-25.1), and with quest I felt best when free T was around 398.2 (46.0-224.0). </p><p></p><p>Everyone’s different tho. But just wanted to show u that there’s a chance ur issues could be due to ur levels being too low. To achieve thise free at levels above, I needed 180mg of testosterone injected IM. </p><p></p><p>My current recommendation for u is to inject EOD, not ED. U can inject ED if u want, but with ur SHBG level it’s not necessary. I personally don’t notice a difference between the two, and my SHBG is currently around 35. I’d also switch to shallow IM injections. Subq, in the studies, shows that there is basically no difference between it and IM, and most guys do fine on SubQ, but there are some that just don’t feel good on SubQ. So I would just stick with what’s proven to work for the majority of men, and inject IM. U personally only have ever done IM into my thighs. Works for me. And lastly I would take ur doctors recommendation and inject around 200-210/ week, see how u feel, and get labs done in 6 weeks. There’s no point in getting labs done in 3 weeks after a protocol change. Testosterone cypionate takes around 5-6 weeks to reach steady state and stabilize, so that’s when u want to get labs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gman86, post: 185155, member: 15043"] What’s ur SHBG level at? Ya it’s definitely possible that 168mg per week isn’t enough. It’s rare, but some people need 250mg-300mg/ week to get their levels in a healthy range. Again, very rare. Just saying everyone metabolizes testosterone differently. Checkout the TRT and hormone optimization YouTube channel and FB group. There’s 2 guys that run them. One of them is Danny Bossa, and I believe he needs at least 250mg of test to get his free T to the top of the range. My numbers prior to TRT were somewhat close to urs. Total at close to 700c SHBG around 55, free T at the bottom of the range, and on another test below the bottom of the range. I felt absolutely horrible with those free T levels, despite having a pretty healthy total. I’ve tried every protocol in the book. I started feeling better as soon as I got my free T up. Even when free T wasn’t optimal, I still felt better than pre HRT. For me, I’ve found that to feel my best, I need total T at least at 1600. Usually a bit higher. And I feel my best with free T in the mid 40’s in the labcorp range (8.7-25.1), and with quest I felt best when free T was around 398.2 (46.0-224.0). Everyone’s different tho. But just wanted to show u that there’s a chance ur issues could be due to ur levels being too low. To achieve thise free at levels above, I needed 180mg of testosterone injected IM. My current recommendation for u is to inject EOD, not ED. U can inject ED if u want, but with ur SHBG level it’s not necessary. I personally don’t notice a difference between the two, and my SHBG is currently around 35. I’d also switch to shallow IM injections. Subq, in the studies, shows that there is basically no difference between it and IM, and most guys do fine on SubQ, but there are some that just don’t feel good on SubQ. So I would just stick with what’s proven to work for the majority of men, and inject IM. U personally only have ever done IM into my thighs. Works for me. And lastly I would take ur doctors recommendation and inject around 200-210/ week, see how u feel, and get labs done in 6 weeks. There’s no point in getting labs done in 3 weeks after a protocol change. Testosterone cypionate takes around 5-6 weeks to reach steady state and stabilize, so that’s when u want to get labs. [/QUOTE]
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