Clomiphene is making me awful

[Clint Lovelace]

I have been on clomid, 50 mg, since December 20th. I saw a new doc then who wanted to see if he could jump start my own production with clomid before trying shots, or the pellets. I was on Androgel before and had no change. I have not noticed any positive benefits or changes since taking clomid. In the past month however I have been feeling pretty awful--tired, emotional, muscles are fatigued and even hurting, aches, and still same low T issues.

Any suggestions or experiences similar? Considering calling the doc on Monday and telling him how I am feeling and see if I can see him sooner than my scheduled appt (March 21) or ask if I should stop taking clomid, etc.

 

[Gene Devine]

Get blood work first before doing anything and see where your serum levels are.

Post them here complete with ranges.

Clomid probably isn't working for you and it's no surprise.

TRT may be the solution you need...but blood work first my friend!!!

 

[GettingAnswers]

another problem can be that clomid exerts estrogenic effects on the body and many people feel awful on it and don't realize the benefits until they come off. That is if the restart actually sticks. I know I felt awful while I was taking it. Good luck

 

[SuperDutyDave]

I wasted my time with varying levels of clomid hoping for restart etc. numbers came up with high dosage and dropped as tapered.....but never did I really see symptoms improve with clomid

Find a good Doc and look for a good protocol going. Clomid isn't it

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I have never met anyone who feels great on Clomid (clomiphene) monotherapy. Also, total testosterone rarely goes up above 600 ng/dL in most men on Clomid. Yes, LH and FSH got up but it seems that the HPTA upregulation somehow does not translate into better quality of life (I am yet to find a good explanation about this, by the way). I have no idea why any doctor would prescribe it unless you really need fertility boosting for short periods of time.

More Clomid posts:

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/1021-Clomid-vs-hcg?highlight=clomiphene

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/thr...e-and-Sperm-Count-in-Men?highlight=clomiphene

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/thr...terone-replacement-or-anabolic-steroids.6299/

 

[txmx]

I did clomiphene monotherapy for about 17 months. Total T ran in the 600-875 range depending on dose level (25 or 50mg EOD). Free T was always below normal due to high SHBG. There was never any noticeable improvement in subjective quality of life issues. Convenient pill, but not the results you are looking for. Maybe Androxal will be different?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I doubt Androxal will be different. It is an isomer of clomiphene. But it may get approved not because of quality of life or ED, but because the company just promises the FDA increases in testosterone.

 

[Clint Lovelace]

Thanks for the feedback so far guys. Seeing as Insurance will not cover this because I am a man, but covered my wife when she took it a few years ago, its not cheap either. Almost as much as the androgel was. I'm just ready for injections at this point.

 

[txmx]

I was getting 15 tabs of clomiphene citrate for 24.00 at Kroger, with no insurance.

 

[ironman]

I think somebody was over charging you Clint, I got clomid 25 mg everyday for 22.50 a month no insurance.

 

[Clint Lovelace]

maybe so but i paid $40 for 50 mg for a month.

 

[vagabond]

Man I am so glad I found this post wheeew so a year ago I started TRT mind you I use the Veterans hospital at the time I was like 290 lbs and going thru divorce and all, so I had them check my T level and it came back 20 which I fell was wrong but what ever so I go to the urologist start the TRT after a few months get it up to the 700 range and been great all this time well old doc retires new young doc comes in and had my labs done and my dumb ass had took a shot 3 days before the labs so he said my level was like 1900 YIKES!!! so we talk and he suggest clomid and i say ok so about the 4th and 5th week I fell like strait ass cant get an erection and have no sex drive.
I call the doc and try talking to him and he gets all upset and defensive but myself say bump that and started back my shots and back to normal.
I know he said my estrogen levels we on the high side of normal I usually take a natural estrogen blocker not sure how much it helps
well again great post

 

[trt4me]

Just an FYI
When I did a while ago.
clomid at 12.5mg 3x a week took my LH just above range thus no more would be needed or have any benefit because that's its job. With LH at the top its then up to the testes to perfrom. Also this allows the SHBG and E2 to not increase as much (I assume not a DR).
I think too many start clomid at a high does instead of low and watching the LH to see if more is needed.
MY Euro at the time wanted me to take 25mg daily.

If your shbg and e2 get high that will affect anyone.

 

[drewsonofdean]

I personally struggled with Clomid as well. My T sky rocketed from around 300 up to 1100. But the issue was that my estrogen also sky rocketed. I was literally insane, until I finally sucked it up and got on TRT. Clomid also jacked up my vision, still to this day...