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Before I started with Defy I decided to get serious with losing weight to maximize TRT. Went to intermittent fasting (20 and 4) and lost 20 pounds over next 3 months. Just use ACV thru morning to cut hunger pangs and have lunch 2-3pm. Dosing is just a  tablespoon in a quart of water. Pretty simple really. Was planning on going back to regular meals but find it pretty easy to continue . Kinda pleased with myself as now running #10 less than my twin brother and always have run #10 more than him. We're 65 and he's on T-cream thru homeopath and I follow Defy's T-cyp/HCG protocol. All good thus far, almost 5 months in.