A month of 6-10 bowel movements per day.

[osb40000]

If this is the wrong place to post this please forgive me. It may be completely unrelated to TRT but this potential "side effect" has coincided with TRT so I figured I'd ask more knowledgeable people here.

I started TRT six weeks ago. 120mg/week MWF. Up until a week ago I didn't use an AI. I've used .125mg Anastrozole twice in the past week because I was starting to get bitchy, moody and have mild ED issues. I've noticed some heartburn over the past week but that may not be due to the AI and the bowel issues started prior to AI.

Over the years I've developed what I'd call "old man bowels". It really didn't bother me much, but I'd have softer bowel movements that didn't give me a lot of time before I "had to go". I'd usually need to go within 30 minutes of the feeling. I'd usually go twice a day pretty much like clockwork, once in the morning, and once at night. I don't have any food allergies that I know of and I haven't changed my diet in years.

Over the past month something has changed drastically. I have next to no warning that I need to go #2 and there is no holding it back, even if it's a small amount. They are very loose, skinny, and small bowel movements. This is happening 6-10 times a day and is impacting my life severely. I don't have bowel pain or a bunch of gas, just very loose, frequent bowel movements. It's like the food is just zooming right through me. At first I thought I just had a stomach bug but this is way too long for that and it has me worried.

About two weeks ago I did try to step up more cardio in the gym and in every day life which has made things even worse, but the problem started way before that. Any thoughts, help, etc is greatly appreciated.

 

[Blackhawk]

Most commonly, bacteria, viruses etc cause these kinds of problems, whether acute infection or disruption in gut flora. If the latter it does not necessarily manifest as acute illness, but can be exactly as you describe. Also can be related to diet including issues like fiber intake, amount and type, food intolerances etc.

And yes, there may be a correlation between your new regimen and your bowel issue. There was just another thread posted with link to study about how medications other than antibiotics can also disrupt gut flora. And another on how gluten changes gut flora.

Many variables/possibilities. While possible, I would not jump to the conclusion that it is due to your new TRT regimen.

 

[mooseman109]

I would add probiotic in the morning and eat a small yogurt daily. Gut flora is important/
It could be many things from complex to simple. I agree with blackhawk, I would not throw out TRT just yet. Lots of guys on here and I do not recall seeing this as a common issue

 

[Vince]

It may be time to start working on your gut bacteria.

 

[Vince]

If this is the wrong place to post this please forgive me. It may be completely unrelated to TRT but this potential "side effect" has coincided with TRT so I figured I'd ask more knowledgeable people here.

I started TRT six weeks ago. 120mg/week MWF. Up until a week ago I didn't use an AI. I've used .125mg Anastrozole twice in the past week because I was starting to get bitchy, moody and have mild ED issues. I've noticed some heartburn over the past week but that may not be due to the AI and the bowel issues started prior to AI.

Over the years I've developed what I'd call "old man bowels". It really didn't bother me much, but I'd have softer bowel movements that didn't give me a lot of time before I "had to go". I'd usually need to go within 30 minutes of the feeling. I'd usually go twice a day pretty much like clockwork, once in the morning, and once at night. I don't have any food allergies that I know of and I haven't changed my diet in years.

Over the past month something has changed drastically. I have next to no warning that I need to go #2 and there is no holding it back, even if it's a small amount. They are very loose, skinny, and small bowel movements. This is happening 6-10 times a day and is impacting my life severely. I don't have bowel pain or a bunch of gas, just very loose, frequent bowel movements. It's like the food is just zooming right through me. At first I thought I just had a stomach bug but this is way too long for that and it has me worried.

About two weeks ago I did try to step up more cardio in the gym and in every day life which has made things even worse, but the problem started way before that. Any thoughts, help, etc is greatly appreciated.

Here's the probiotic I use, you may be interested in it.
Gutpro: A Recommended Probiotic, Information, and Review

 

[madman]

If this is the wrong place to post this please forgive me. It may be completely unrelated to TRT but this potential "side effect" has coincided with TRT so I figured I'd ask more knowledgeable people here.

I started TRT six weeks ago. 120mg/week MWF. Up until a week ago I didn't use an AI. I've used .125mg Anastrozole twice in the past week because I was starting to get bitchy, moody and have mild ED issues. I've noticed some heartburn over the past week but that may not be due to the AI and the bowel issues started prior to AI.

Over the years I've developed what I'd call "old man bowels". It really didn't bother me much, but I'd have softer bowel movements that didn't give me a lot of time before I "had to go". I'd usually need to go within 30 minutes of the feeling. I'd usually go twice a day pretty much like clockwork, once in the morning, and once at night. I don't have any food allergies that I know of and I haven't changed my diet in years.

Over the past month something has changed drastically. I have next to no warning that I need to go #2 and there is no holding it back, even if it's a small amount. They are very loose, skinny, and small bowel movements. This is happening 6-10 times a day and is impacting my life severely. I don't have bowel pain or a bunch of gas, just very loose, frequent bowel movements. It's like the food is just zooming right through me. At first I thought I just had a stomach bug but this is way too long for that and it has me worried.

About two weeks ago I did try to step up more cardio in the gym and in every day life which has made things even worse, but the problem started way before that. Any thoughts, help, etc is greatly appreciated.

Has anything changed in your diet?

Aside of underlying health issues ones transit time plays a big role which diet has a big impact.

Loose/watery/frequent bowel movement can be caused by too much insoluble fiber and too little soluble fiber.

Insoluble fiber adds bulk to stool and increases the rate at which food moves through your system.

Soluble fiber absorbs water and forms a gel like substance which not only softens stool but also decreases the rate at which food moves through your system.

Insoluble fiber will speed up transit time as oppose to soluble fiber which will slow down transit time.

Both types of fibers have many benefical health benefits in relation to improving cholesterol, gut/immune health, blood sugar levels, removing toxins among other overall health benefits.

You may need to look into adding more soluble fiber to each of your meals!

 

[osb40000]

Has anything changed in your diet?

Aside of underlying health issues ones transit time plays a big role which diet has a big impact.

Loose/watery/frequent bowel movement can be caused by too much insoluble fiber and too little soluble fiber.

Insoluble fiber adds bulk to stool and increases the rate at which food moves through your system.

Soluble fiber absorbs water and forms a gel like substance which not only softens stool but also decreases the rate at which food moves through your system.

Insoluble fiber will speed up transit time as oppose to soluble fiber which will slow down transit time.

Both types of fibers have many benefical health benefits in relation to improving cholesterol, gut/immune health, blood sugar levels, removing toxins among other overall health benefits.

You may need to look into adding more soluble fiber to each of your meals!

Diet hasn't changed for years. I'll have a fruit/spinach smoothie with whey protein daily, a banana a day, chicken or beef daily, beans, rice, cheese, etc. I don't eat a lot of grains and don't eat much bread or pasta. I rarely drink mile or have cereal.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I have had gut issues for many years with my IBS.

Avoiding milk and spicy foods, taking this cocktail has helped (do it for a week):

1000 mg Calcium carbonate twice per day

2000 mg (2 grams) of glutamine twice per day (powder).

One Citrucell twice per day.

Probiotics only work rarely and you have to take a large number of colonies to make a difference.

If this does not work, I would get a stool test (talk to your doctor). Flagyl is prescribed for bugs and parasites that can cause gut issues.

Note: Avoid magnesium supplements.

 

[Blackhawk]

Diet hasn't changed for years. I'll have a fruit/spinach smoothie with whey protein daily, a banana a day, chicken or beef daily, beans, rice, cheese, etc. I don't eat a lot of grains and don't eat much bread or pasta. I rarely drink mile or have cereal.

I became sensitive to foods that were fine for me for 50 years. It was really difficult figuring out what they were, and I had the help of a functional medicine MD, and LEAP MRT testing which helped some, but I don't believe very strongly in the test results. Also tested sensitive to gluten, but not celiac, so stopped. Sensitive foods ranged from spinach to broccoli, mushrooms, black pepper, mint, cumin, melons, sesame, garlic, chick peas, and grains especially were ongoing shape shifting trouble. Any grain that I started to eat regularly became problematic, so I completely eliminated grains for a while.

Along with this Dr's gut formula, I got better. Now a couple years later with healed gut, I can again tolerate some of these foods, but not all. I tried gluten again and it caused gas, bloating, loose stools, systemic inflammation, aggravating my chronic joint and arthritis problems and created nasal pharangeal inflammation. Grains are still a problem, even gluten free like rice and corn. If I eat one frequently, I become sensitive.

The gut formula is Acidophilus with bifidus, saccaromyces boulardi, colostrum, zinc carnosine, L-glutamine mixed up with grass fed butter, a small bit of honey and a bit of olive oil. If you really want to try this, i can dig up the amounts in the formula. Whenever my gut gets a little off, I mix up a batch which lasts about 10 days and eat a Tablespoon a day. Always puts me back on track.

YMMV depending on how you tolerate the ingredients.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Thanks, Blackhawk. I am interested in seeing the formula.

 

[bdem62]

I thought it was just me! I've had the same issue in regards to bowel movements since September. I didn't relate it to my TRT as I've been on since January of 2018. I really didn't have any change in diet that I could attribute the increase in bowel movements though I started to supplement with probiotics and removing certain supplements that I thought might be contributing (ZMA) to the issue. I noticed no change to my bowel movements with the addition of the probiotics (I probably wasn't taking enough of the colonies to make a difference even though I was following the recommended amount) nor with the removal of ZMA.
I finally went to my PCP last week and did a stool sample. It came back negative for any infections. So after some more research, I decided to try digestive enzymes along with the probiotics. The reasoning for this is that I found several articles relating to aging and the resultant reduction in the ability to break down food as part of the digestive process (I'm 52). I figured it was worth a shot. It has cut down on my trips to the bathroom (from 10+/day to three or four). I'd like to get back to twice a day and a more solid bowel movement.(..but hey, at least I'm not constipated! ).

 

[DragonBits]

Diet hasn't changed for years. I'll have a fruit/spinach smoothie with whey protein daily, a banana a day, chicken or beef daily, beans, rice, cheese, etc. I don't eat a lot of grains and don't eat much bread or pasta. I rarely drink mile or have cereal.

My wife moved from Thailand to the USA 5.5 years ago.

The first three years, she had no problems with her diet, the first day on arrival we went out for pizza.

She has become very lactose intolerant, and your diet would automatically give her diarrhea all day long.

The whey protein would do it to her. We know because she has tried some of mine. Most types of cheese, but not all cheese. Any premium ice cream with high milk solids.

You can become lactose intolerant later in life. I would cut out all the sources of lactose like whey protein and see if it helps.

Outside of that, you can develop food allergies later in life. Since you have such a regular diet, change it and see what happens. Start with the obvious, sources of lactose.

Or go to a gastro specialist, they will likely do the same sort of thing.

 

[Blackhawk]

Thanks, Blackhawk. I am interested in seeing the formula.

Leave butter at room temp for a while until soft and blendable. Remove all capsule contents into bowl and mix. Combine all ingredients in blender or fully hand mix. He recommends taking 2 tbsp the first couple days then 1 tbsp/day for maintenance. These days if I need it i just take a Tbsp/day.

whether on empty stomach or with carbs is controversial, theory of empty stomach is the fat is needed to help intestinal mucosa, the carbs are probiotic food.

I think he recommended more glutamine in the mix, but I am also sensitive to glutamates so cut back. Use only grass fed butter and good quality fresh extra virgin olive oil. The Drs best is the zinc carnosine. My modified formula:

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Thanks. Very interesting use of fats.