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35 with high SHBG, libido and erection issues. Labs inside, should I call defy?
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<blockquote data-quote="YoungOldMan" data-source="post: 56767" data-attributes="member: 14587"><p>Hello,</p><p></p><p>I've had libido and erection issues off and on for at least five years. During the same time frame I've also experienced periods of melancholy mood. I have a bit of anxiety but I've not needed medication. My sex drive and erection quality have both taken a huge dive over the past 12 months. I've tried cialis and viagra which worked initially for my erection (but not for libido) but are now hit or miss. In college, as a stupid and uninformed kid, I did take testosterone and trenbolone for the better part of a year. I stopped them cold turkey without trying to restart my system, I don't know if that caused any permanent changes. I have more stress lately, partly due to these issues, but this has been happening since before the stress started. I also lost 25lbs over the course of 2-3 months earlier this year.</p><p></p><p>My SHBG has been high since it was first tested in 2011. My progesterone is also high and the doctors aren't sure if that's a concern or not. An endocrinologist in town thinks my Free Testosterone is too low and wants to start me on Test cyp injections. He will add in an anti-E as needed and only mentioned HCG if I want to have kids. I've asked for testosterone gel instead of test cyp, thinking the extra DHT conversion may help, but now I'm not sure. I have never done HRT and have not yet started. I don't want to take it if it is not needed.</p><p></p><p>Based on my age, symptoms, and labs, should I consider starting TRT? If so, I will contact Defy Medical for an expert opinion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Labs (not shown here are: blood pressure, cholesterol, triglycerides, and liver metabolites, which are all in good range):</p><table class='post-table width: 643, align: left' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p>Date</p></td><td ><p>Test</p></td><td ><p>Value</p></td><td ><p>Reference Range</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]03/09/11[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>408 ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>400-1080</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/17/11[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>546 ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>400-1080</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/17/11[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Free Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>8.02 ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>4.7-24.4</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/17/11[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>% Free Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>1.5</p></td><td ><p>1.6-2.9</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/17/11[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>SHBG</p></td><td ><p>52.6 nmol/L</p></td><td ><p>13-71</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]04/29/15[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>805 ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>348-1197</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]04/29/15[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Free Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>13.45 ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>4 -25.0</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]04/29/15[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>% Free Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>1.67</p></td><td ><p>1.50-4.2</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>908.3 ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>348-1197</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Free Testosterone (direct)</p></td><td ><p>12.1 pg/ml</p></td><td ><p>8.7-25.1</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>LH</p></td><td ><p>5.2 mIU/mL</p></td><td ><p>1.7-8.6</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>FSH</p></td><td ><p>4.4 mIU/mL</p></td><td ><p>1.5-12.4</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Prolactin</p></td><td ><p>10.4 ng/mL</p></td><td ><p>4.0-15.2</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Estradiol</p></td><td ><p>27.4 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p>8.0-35</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>SHBG</p></td><td ><p>56.5 nmol/L</p></td><td ><p>16.5-55.9</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]07/15/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>DHT</p></td><td ><p>684 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p>106-719.0</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]07/15/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Prolactin</p></td><td ><p>4.76 ng/mL</p></td><td ><p>4.0-15.2</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]07/15/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>SHBG</p></td><td ><p>61.57 nmol/L</p></td><td ><p>10.0-80</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]07/15/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Free T3</p></td><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]3.68[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>2.5-4.3</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]07/15/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Free T4</p></td><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]1.62[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>0.71-1.7</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Progesterone</p></td><td ><p>2.0 ng/ml</p></td><td ><p>0.2-1.5</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>DHEA</p></td><td ><p>366 ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>61.0-1636</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>573 ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>250.0-1100</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Free Testosterone (direct)</p></td><td ><p>53.9 pg/ml</p></td><td ><p>35.0-155.0</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>LH</p></td><td ><p>2.7 mIU/mL</p></td><td ><p>0.8-10.5</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>FSH</p></td><td ><p>4.0 mIU/mL</p></td><td ><p>1.6-9.7</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Estrone</p></td><td ><p>25 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p><68</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Estradiol, Free</p></td><td ><p>12 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p><29</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Estriol</p></td><td ><p><.20 ng/mL</p></td><td ><p><=.18</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/05/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Cortisol Free, Urine 24h</p></td><td ><p>45.8 mcg/24hr</p></td><td ><p>4.0-50.0</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/08/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>676.2 ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>249.0-836</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/08/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Free Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>8.95 ng/dl</p></td><td ><p>4.7-24.4</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/08/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>% Free Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>1.3</p></td><td ><p>1.6-2.9</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/08/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>SHBG</p></td><td ><p>65.78</p></td><td ><p>10.0-80</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/08/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Albumin</p></td><td ><p>4.7</p></td><td ><p>3.5-5.0</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/10/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>DHEAS</p></td><td ><p>274.1 ug/dL</p></td><td ><p>138.5-475</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]08/10/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Estradiol</p></td><td ><p>27.5 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p>8.0-35</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>DHT</p></td><td ><p>574 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p>106-719.0</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>SHBG</p></td><td ><p>57 nmol/L</p></td><td ><p>11-80</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Prolactin</p></td><td ><p>5.8 ng/mL</p></td><td ><p>2.5-17</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Vitamin D</p></td><td ><p>60.1 ng/mL</p></td><td ><p>30-80</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Hemoglobin</p></td><td ><p>15.5 g/dL</p></td><td ><p>13.7-17.5</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Hematocrit</p></td><td ><p>46.40%</p></td><td ><p>39.0–55.0</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>PSA</p></td><td ><p>1.59 ng/mL</p></td><td ><p>.09-2.5</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Estradiol</p></td><td ><p>25 pg/mL</p></td><td ><p>6.0-66</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>LH</p></td><td ><p>1.5 mIU/mL</p></td><td></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>FSH</p></td><td ><p>2.9 mIU/mL</p></td><td ><p>1.6-9.7</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>TSH</p></td><td ><p>0.92 uIU/mL</p></td><td ><p>0.47-4.68</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>319 ng/dL</p></td><td ><p>160-726</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]11/07/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Progesterone</p></td><td ><p>0.5 ng/mL</p></td><td ><p>0.0-0.1</p></td></tr><tr><td ><p>[TD="align: right"]11/07/16[/TD]</p></td><td ><p>Total Testosterone</p></td><td ><p>883 ng/dL</p></td><td ><p>348-1197</p></td></tr></table>Thanks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="YoungOldMan, post: 56767, member: 14587"] Hello, I've had libido and erection issues off and on for at least five years. During the same time frame I've also experienced periods of melancholy mood. I have a bit of anxiety but I've not needed medication. My sex drive and erection quality have both taken a huge dive over the past 12 months. I've tried cialis and viagra which worked initially for my erection (but not for libido) but are now hit or miss. In college, as a stupid and uninformed kid, I did take testosterone and trenbolone for the better part of a year. I stopped them cold turkey without trying to restart my system, I don't know if that caused any permanent changes. I have more stress lately, partly due to these issues, but this has been happening since before the stress started. I also lost 25lbs over the course of 2-3 months earlier this year. My SHBG has been high since it was first tested in 2011. My progesterone is also high and the doctors aren't sure if that's a concern or not. An endocrinologist in town thinks my Free Testosterone is too low and wants to start me on Test cyp injections. He will add in an anti-E as needed and only mentioned HCG if I want to have kids. I've asked for testosterone gel instead of test cyp, thinking the extra DHT conversion may help, but now I'm not sure. I have never done HRT and have not yet started. I don't want to take it if it is not needed. Based on my age, symptoms, and labs, should I consider starting TRT? If so, I will contact Defy Medical for an expert opinion. Labs (not shown here are: blood pressure, cholesterol, triglycerides, and liver metabolites, which are all in good range): [TABLE="width: 643, align: left"] [TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD]Test[/TD] [TD]Value[/TD] [TD]Reference Range[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]03/09/11[/TD] [TD]Total Testosterone[/TD] [TD]408 ng/dl[/TD] [TD]400-1080[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/17/11[/TD] [TD]Total Testosterone[/TD] [TD]546 ng/dl[/TD] [TD]400-1080[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/17/11[/TD] [TD]Free Testosterone[/TD] [TD]8.02 ng/dl[/TD] [TD]4.7-24.4[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/17/11[/TD] [TD]% Free Testosterone[/TD] [TD]1.5[/TD] [TD]1.6-2.9[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/17/11[/TD] [TD]SHBG[/TD] [TD]52.6 nmol/L[/TD] [TD]13-71[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]04/29/15[/TD] [TD]Total Testosterone[/TD] [TD]805 ng/dl[/TD] [TD]348-1197[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]04/29/15[/TD] [TD]Free Testosterone[/TD] [TD]13.45 ng/dl[/TD] [TD]4 -25.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]04/29/15[/TD] [TD]% Free Testosterone[/TD] [TD]1.67[/TD] [TD]1.50-4.2[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD] [TD]Total Testosterone[/TD] [TD]908.3 ng/dl[/TD] [TD]348-1197[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD] [TD]Free Testosterone (direct)[/TD] [TD]12.1 pg/ml[/TD] [TD]8.7-25.1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD] [TD]LH[/TD] [TD]5.2 mIU/mL[/TD] [TD]1.7-8.6[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD] [TD]FSH[/TD] [TD]4.4 mIU/mL[/TD] [TD]1.5-12.4[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD] [TD]Prolactin[/TD] [TD]10.4 ng/mL[/TD] [TD]4.0-15.2[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD] [TD]Estradiol[/TD] [TD]27.4 pg/mL[/TD] [TD]8.0-35[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]05/20/16[/TD] [TD]SHBG[/TD] [TD]56.5 nmol/L[/TD] [TD]16.5-55.9[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]07/15/16[/TD] [TD]DHT[/TD] [TD]684 pg/mL[/TD] [TD]106-719.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]07/15/16[/TD] [TD]Prolactin[/TD] [TD]4.76 ng/mL[/TD] [TD]4.0-15.2[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]07/15/16[/TD] [TD]SHBG[/TD] [TD]61.57 nmol/L[/TD] [TD]10.0-80[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]07/15/16[/TD] [TD]Free T3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3.68[/TD] [TD]2.5-4.3[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]07/15/16[/TD] [TD]Free T4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1.62[/TD] [TD]0.71-1.7[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD] [TD]Progesterone[/TD] [TD]2.0 ng/ml[/TD] [TD]0.2-1.5[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD] [TD]DHEA[/TD] [TD]366 ng/dl[/TD] [TD]61.0-1636[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD] [TD]Total Testosterone[/TD] [TD]573 ng/dl[/TD] [TD]250.0-1100[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD] [TD]Free Testosterone (direct)[/TD] [TD]53.9 pg/ml[/TD] [TD]35.0-155.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD] [TD]LH[/TD] [TD]2.7 mIU/mL[/TD] [TD]0.8-10.5[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD] [TD]FSH[/TD] [TD]4.0 mIU/mL[/TD] [TD]1.6-9.7[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD] [TD]Estrone[/TD] [TD]25 pg/mL[/TD] [TD]<68[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD] [TD]Estradiol, Free[/TD] [TD]12 pg/mL[/TD] [TD]<29[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/02/16[/TD] [TD]Estriol[/TD] [TD]<.20 ng/mL[/TD] [TD]<=.18[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/05/16[/TD] [TD]Cortisol Free, Urine 24h[/TD] [TD]45.8 mcg/24hr[/TD] [TD]4.0-50.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/08/16[/TD] [TD]Total Testosterone[/TD] [TD]676.2 ng/dl[/TD] [TD]249.0-836[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/08/16[/TD] [TD]Free Testosterone[/TD] [TD]8.95 ng/dl[/TD] [TD]4.7-24.4[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/08/16[/TD] [TD]% Free Testosterone[/TD] [TD]1.3[/TD] [TD]1.6-2.9[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/08/16[/TD] [TD]SHBG[/TD] [TD]65.78[/TD] [TD]10.0-80[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/08/16[/TD] [TD]Albumin[/TD] [TD]4.7[/TD] [TD]3.5-5.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/10/16[/TD] [TD]DHEAS[/TD] [TD]274.1 ug/dL[/TD] [TD]138.5-475[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]08/10/16[/TD] [TD]Estradiol[/TD] [TD]27.5 pg/mL[/TD] [TD]8.0-35[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]DHT[/TD] [TD]574 pg/mL[/TD] [TD]106-719.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]SHBG[/TD] [TD]57 nmol/L[/TD] [TD]11-80[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]Prolactin[/TD] [TD]5.8 ng/mL[/TD] [TD]2.5-17[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]Vitamin D[/TD] [TD]60.1 ng/mL[/TD] [TD]30-80[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]Hemoglobin[/TD] [TD]15.5 g/dL[/TD] [TD]13.7-17.5[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]Hematocrit[/TD] [TD]46.40%[/TD] [TD]39.0–55.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]PSA[/TD] [TD]1.59 ng/mL[/TD] [TD].09-2.5[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]Estradiol[/TD] [TD]25 pg/mL[/TD] [TD]6.0-66[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]LH[/TD] [TD]1.5 mIU/mL[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]FSH[/TD] [TD]2.9 mIU/mL[/TD] [TD]1.6-9.7[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]TSH[/TD] [TD]0.92 uIU/mL[/TD] [TD]0.47-4.68[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10/20/16[/TD] [TD]Total Testosterone[/TD] [TD]319 ng/dL[/TD] [TD]160-726[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]11/07/16[/TD] [TD]Progesterone[/TD] [TD]0.5 ng/mL[/TD] [TD]0.0-0.1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]11/07/16[/TD] [TD]Total Testosterone[/TD] [TD]883 ng/dL[/TD] [TD]348-1197[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Thanks! 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