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Hey thanks for the reply. I have not had any side-effects such as shrunken testicals or tight scrotum like I get with injections . Just the severe acne. Maybe I'll try every other day? I'm now taking Cialis 5mg daily with the Natesto. My sex drive is increasing from low to moderate. Still...

Not be ignorant about the types of testosterone but Natesto applied 3 times a day at 33mg x 7 days = 231mg of testosterone weekly. I'm normally prescribed 100mg weekly of injectable Cipionate. Could the difference be the cause of this insane back acne? Is the absorbability a factor with...

Back on Natesto after a .month and a half break due to illness. This time tbe acne on my back is horrible. My wife who is a qualified popper says it's worse than when I was on injectable cipionate. It itches like fire as well. I'm going to stop again to see what happens. Hate to stop and...

My inability to take hcg is what lead me down the road to herbs for recovery. Particularly Cistanche. HCG in any amount sends me into sweats and anxiety like crazy. If not for that I'm sure that my protocol could be similar.

Will do Nelson.....

Historically my numbers would drop off to around 250 to 280 TT when stopping cypionate. Cistanche would bring me back to base sooner @ around 500 TT. There is a slight bump in sex drive and a better sense of well being. I have my blodwork scattered throughout my email. I'll see if I can find...

Great information! I have used cistanche successfully multiple times post cycle but never while on trt. I'm currently using Natesto but doing to well with long-term. After reading this post I will certainly try injection plus trt to see what happens. Would consider enclomiphene to if available...

Wow good information and I appreciate it!

I know that Natesto is a Nasal application product but due to getting sores in my nose I've recently tried applying it on the inside of my biceps. It seems to absorb well and I actually feel it better than the nasal application. Just curious to know of anyone has tried this before? Like all...

Good to hear. I'm using Natesto for the first time and feel like I need a bump with it. Maybe I'll try the Pregnenalon-Dhea combo with it to see if there's any improvement.

How has your libido holding using this new dosage?

Read up on Pine Pollen for women. Lost Empire Herbs. My wife has been taking it for several months now and feels good when taking it regularly. Strong libido. May be an option for u. Let us know how it goes either way. S.J.

Just wondering if anyone is supplementing with pine pollen while on Trt,? It's rich in DHEA and other goodies.. Just curious?

This is interesting and there are a few other articles out there relating to this. I know it was a mouse model study but that's how things start. What lead me to look into it is that I have had IDS and Digestive issues over the years. I have always had low free T with normal Total T. But when I...

10-4 will do. I hope that this venture works out. Appreciate all.

Kool. I appreciate it. One other notable since I started Natesto is my sleep is better than on injectable testosterone. Almost to good as I fall asleep earlier on the couch then get up and go to bed......

One week on Natesto. Feeling good. Some early morning wood after the 4:30am pee. Looking at my wife's behind much more : ) Challenging to get 3 pumps per day on weekends. Feel like built up junk in my nose which I don't like. Would it be ok to use a Nasal Saline flush a couple of times a...

Interesting read.

I have wondered about the repetitive use in the nostrils but I've never heard of any horror stories. If my Uro clears my biopsy I'm going to request Natesto for at least a reasonable trial period. Not going down the Androgel road. I tried it years ago and its not for me. Appreciate all of the...

I think that I could manage it as I work behind the desk and have a very balanced schedule. My follow up is the middle of this week so I've got a minute to decide.

Kool Thanks for the reply. I'll try it and post as it goes....

I've seen some successful examples in tbe past about using Natesto regularly for TRT. I see my Urologist this week for biopsy results and if all goes well I'm thinking Natesto instead of injections if he approves. Can anyone shout out if this works for you? My preference is cream on the...

After reading this thread I think that testosterone draws a adrenaline response upon Injection at least for the first 24 hours at least for me. So after folllowing this read i have tried l theanine at night and acetly l carnitine day time. It seems to help with the turtle problem . We'll see as...

I agree if you fit that mold. I am back supplementing estriol at night. It works for me. I'm not on trt due to prostate issues but my estrogen has always been borderline at base. I can have a Total T of 550 and an E of 12 to 15. Free t low at base as well. Normal for me. Since I'm using Saw...

2nd try. 10 Effects of Estrogen on the Male Body

I see my file didn't attach. I'll try again.

Interesting read. Not sure I got it in the right category... S.J.

I am taking 200mg once daily HAVASU Saw. Stinging Nettle tea once a day. Regular supplements, zinc, boron and magnesium. Sometimes I think we have to rob Peter to pay Paul. So I'm wondering about staying on the Saw Palmetto and supplement with an estriol cream. Tried that before but wasn't...

I meant to add that since this has come about my ejaculate volume is way down. Noticeable to my spouse. I'm only shootin a single as I had a vasectomy many years ago...

Understand. But a viable alternative to stop bph?

Off TRT approximately 120 days. About normal fo me as Total T goes but I've never had estrogen this low. Usually around 12 -18 baseline. I suspect it's the Saw Palmetto and or Stinging Nettle I'm taking for my BPH-prostate issue. Been on Saw Palmetto for 3 weeks now already have a better stream...