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I agree. I am just not sure how long I can wait it out. maybe Trt for life is my path.

Thanks. I am not sure I cant wait 6-9 months. This has been pretty brutal.

On enclo for a month At this point. I am surprised it was that low With normal LH. I guess I’ll give it more time.

started TrT 2 years ago with TT of 345 and normal LH. Was on HCG for a month prior to last pin and a week after. Been on a month of 25mg enclo and these are my results. Do I have any chance at recovery, or is this the best I am going to get? Thanks.

I did not test LH/FSH. I regret that. Well ill keep pressing on. Anything else other than diet, sleep, weight lifting to get the LH increasing faster??

Well, here is the curveball, it doesn’t even appear to be working. After being on it for a month, I tested 120TT, 12.9 free T, and 9 sensitive E2 from quest. Ironically I don’t really feel that bad. My joints ache and my muscle mass is vanishing before my eyes, but that’s it. Does this...

It looks like they are in capsule form, so I don’t think so. They came from a compounding pharmacy.

Thanks for the reply. Doc told me that I should take it at night, but I am not sure that is the right call. I think it is interfering with my sleep pretty bad. I am still getting morning wood and my libido is fine, so I imagine my test levels are ok. I am also concerned 25md ED may be a...

Greeting Gents, I am in the process of coming off TRT after 2 years. I took 500iu HCG for a month and for a week after last injection. I started 25mg enclomiphine every night 10 days after last injection. 3 days after starting enclomiphine, I feel AWFUL. I feel like I haven’t slept even...

Did you get tested for hemochromatosis or just chalk it up to TRT?

Been on Trt for 16 months. It has cured my libido problems, but I am still exhausted all the time with bad brain fog at times. About a year ago my iron tested and my levels were 165. Now they are at 203 (38-169). Iron a saturation is at 62% (15-55). I battled HCT/HGB for a while but it...

This is probably what it is. for whatever reason it is my scalp that itches the most.

well I def the memory issues and mood. Thyroid is good, check it regularly. How the heck does E2 get low if I don’t use AI?

I waited a bit on asking this one to make sure I wasn’t just being too sensitive to every little thing my body has been doing. After a few months, My skin will not stop itching, specifically my scalp. My eyes are also bloodshot all the time. “Yes dumbass, it’s winter”, is what my wife said...

sent you a PM.

I will say my sleep onset and Length has greatly improved since the switch. Quality is Still awful. I feel like trash in the morning still. Who knows? Needless to say I am “tired” of it!

so far so good for me. I switched to 30mg Eod and I do feel a little better. I am sleeping 6-8hrs a night, so that definitely Improved. I also added 10 mg of pregnenolone before bed a night and that has help with the sleep quality for sure. I am cautiously optimistic right now.

I was hoping to improve sleep quality and daily fatigue as well. the 55mg e3.5d kept me at 600tt at trough. you are right I am not sure I want to lower it much more than that.

Trough was roughly averaged 600TT, E2 got up to 44 which isn’t crazy but got up from low 20s pre Trt. HCT was always pretty high despite my best efforts to reduce.

Trying to keep E2 and HCT under control. I have not had very restful sleep since I started Test 9 months ago, tired all the time. Gym work and sex has been great though. I figured I would try switching to more frequent injections. I switched 55mg e3.5d, to 30mg EOD. it’s only been a week...

great to hear. I am following suit.

not fasting, but similar diet based on time. Yeah I’ll repeat in a few weeks. It just threw me and my doc off.

I have been on the same dosage (60mg e3.5d) for about 9 months. I have had 3 blood test since I started and the first two were pretty close in total test, free test, SHBG, estrogen, etc. However, the last one was much higher. TT went from 543 ->855. Estrogen went from 36->44. The blood was...

My last (And first) blood test came back at 31 ng/dL (22-237). At what point do I need to supplemen, how much, and when? Doc didnt seem to know much about it. have some petty bad fatigue, brain fog, and sleep issues. any advice on starting to supplemen?

[ how long were you on for? how was quitting??

I turned 37 in August, but I look like I am 50 from kids and career! Part of the TRT was to help get me through the phase of life I am in (young kids, 2 demanding but rewarding careers). Total fail! I am not sure what I am going to do, honestly. I travel for work often to foreign countries...

my libido was through the roof for about a month, like a teenager again. returned to what I would classify as normal. Good erection quality and drive. I would say my overall libido is better. The only 2 improvements I have got from TRT are libido and muscle growth. Maybe some minor mental...

I am in the same boat. 60mg 2x a week gives me 553 at trough, but my body doesn’t like test! HCT and HGB are exact same as yours. My bph has gone up 10-15 points (140/90) and I can feel my heart pumping now, very weird. Obviously I can’t sleep for shit now.

unfortunately I am at the giving up point. I am 37 with 2 young kids and a career that will not work on 4-5hrs of sleep on a consistent basis. I am damn near exhausted all the time, which defeats the purpose of TRT for me. Did you quit cold turkey??

So I recently got another 4 point cortisol test after about 8 months of TRT. pre TRT I was ”normal”, high in the morning and slowly lowering to almost nothing at night. Post TRT....man....what a train wreck. Lower/middle norm in the morning in the evening it skyrockets! Almost like a 180 of...

I looked into that. My ferritin was 73 (30-400). Not high, but I don't think that is low. I have battled some common side, sore joints, rising HCT, water retention, etc. if I can’t get this sleep thing under control I may be going back to low T life. how about injection sites? I tried 2...