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Thanks Cat for the attempt to isolate the effects of Suspension. What are your next steps? Would be interesting to see the TT/FT/HPTA blood results when available I continue to dabble with TNE oil-base which subjectively speaking seems to stick around longer than water-based Suspension

What was your dose and blood test on Kyzatrex?

Any updates?

Don't worry you are doing everything right. You just need to ride out this rough patch. I have had same experience over the years with major headaches and joint aches when dropping 20% dose (or going cold turkey). Its a big change for the body to adapt to. Find a dose where you have a good...

Running is notorious for over-training depending on how hard you are pushing it. If you really wanted to rule it out, you could take it easy for 1-2 weeks then test again. Of course, if you have the itch to try TRT, nobody is going to stop you. I would just forewarn that TRT is not a...

How was FT measured? Did your run it through calculator below? https://www.issam.ch/freetesto.htm 30 years old is so young for TRT. It's a lifetime commitment. While there is no harm in trying it, you can piss away a lot of time, energy and money trying to dial in your protocol (don't ask...

Don't fall for TRT myth that 100mg weekly is a low dose. It took me several years to learn that guys respond differently to dose levels. Some handle 200mg no problem, while other such as myself are in 50-60mg range. If you feel over-medicated, you probably are. In my experience, shitty...

Funk - does this mean you have switched your protocol from propionate to oral?

Doc - my educated guess it that exogenous T is not the answer to your problems especially considering many of us would kill your natural blood test numbers. Your symptoms are more in line with overtraining.

Do you feel any different now versus period of first test (not including the initial honeymoon period)?

I actually tried it at one point because I had read Xyosted contained no preservatives. I had given myself hundreds of subq inejctions before Xyosted and damned if I couldn't get that auto-injector to work. I just don't have enough belly fat. It was comical. I later thought about filling...

Apologies for getting off thread topic, but can you provide more details on wife's protocol? Sounds like 2-2.5 mg E3.5 days shallow IM, correct? What ester is she using?

So I take it your sleep eventually normalized at the higher doses?

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Interesting. Admittedly, I have not tried to power through that feeling because the heart palpitations freak me out. But its something for me to keep in mind. Have you found the side effects eventually dissipate with such a large dose? I recall you quitting TRT early on because you felt...

What fascinates me is how some guys are able to tolerate large daily doses and still function normally at supraphysiologic levels. For example, a mere 10mg of daily prop felt like speed to me. Difficult to concentrate; too wired to sleep; heart palpitations, etc. And yet some guys can take...

and should be a lot cheaper.

I didn't realize your recent test numbers were on Xyosted 75m 1x weekly. That is impressive how little TT dropped from mid-week to trough. Why didn't you stay on the 50mg Xyosted? Total-T: 1129 (250-1100) tested at mid-point Total-T: 1102 (250 - 1100) tested at trough

When in doubt, minimize the variables. May want to take a break from Tadalifil while you adjust to new dosing schedule. I have had similar low E2 issues, but never done anything about it. I've read some accounts of guys trying to microdose estradiol cream.

Where are injecting subq other then belly area?

Thanks for clarifying madman. Maybe that is why no one talks about it lol. I was thinking about role of lymphatic system after several very strange subq experiences with Test Suspension where I felt physically sick, but did not experience that same side effect with IM. But as you know...

Its also about convenience. Guys who are injecting small amounts daily often choose subq because its so easy - 5/16 into belly fat you don't even feel it. That's important is you are doing hundreds of injections every year (and thousands over a lifetime). One thing that get little attention...

Keep it simple. Split your current weekly dose in two. Your levels are plenty high enough already. Don't mess with HCG until you iron out your new E3.5 days protocol

FYI, Pure Encapsulations makes a 5mg DHEA capsule that allows for lower dosing

For EOD, you may want to keep it simple and just double to dose. If it were me, I would lower the dose regardless of frequency, but then again I don't do well at top of TT range.

If you feel better on shallow IM, why not try injecting EOD instead of daily to make it more doable? Some guys seem to like EOD. Also, you may want to reduce HCG. Many including myself feel like garbage on it. Keep on experimenting! (although most would say give it 8 weeks between...

Why not work your way down gradually before going cold turkey? You are in for a rough ride (but you know that already)

Normal range E2 / TT ratio is around 0.3-0.6%. Even with TRT (low dose), I tend to hover around 0.25 - 0.30% so on low side. My TRT clinic was reluctant to suggest using estradiol product because its apparently easy to overdo it. As alternative, they suggested supplementing with DHEA to...

Has your A-fib gone away since reducing dose? Early on in my TRT journey, I experienced a bounding heart for several days while I was at high end TT on trough day. It spooked me so I reduced dose and sure enough the problem went away thankfully. Not the same as A-fib, but just another...

Glad to hear you are feeling better, but 5 days is not much time. It would be good to see update in 1-2 months

The libido issues started on your old protocol? Increasing the dose to supraphysiologic levels never seems to work and can even make it worse.