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Well, the previous labs were done roughly 2.5 days after the last injection which included HCG. I was on MWF schedule and this was the lowest point in my trough. That test dose was 46mg, HCG was 350iu. Regardless, I am able to be at 1000+ test levels with much less test and without the bump...

I've always done subQ

I tend to sleep better when I am on it. Although 12.5mg isn't doing as much as 25mg, these past few days.

3 month Update! After the last post on here, I dropped HCG, AI and DHEA. I did testosterone only at 16mg/ daily for three months. Summary Total Testosterone increased SHBG increased Estradiol decreased slighly DHEA dropped significantly HCT increase was much slower in 3 months than...

How impactful is 1000 units/wk of HCG on aromatization?

How has this worked for you?

Your SHGB dropped after starting HCG? Was that the only change?

Thank you

I was being wary of dropping too much. My first adjustment was from 150mg/wk to 140mg... 16mg daily is 112mg total for the week. Do we "absorb" more of the exogenous on daily injections? Is this why 16mg/daily is high?

I started 16mg daily. That's 112mg/WK on daily vs 140mg/WK on three injections. I welcome any comments on this.

Spoke to a Nurse (I think) at Defy today. Going to to donate tomorrow. New labs next week and then a follow up with the Doc after result are available. Probably three weeks till I get new official Doc-recommended adjustment. Meanwhile, Nurse said to stay on 3 days but lower dose to 30mg (from...

And you feel better on the lower test level? "Feel it" more?

Wow, I was about 23-24 before I started TRT 6 months ago. After three months, it went down to 16 and now its 9.

From what I've learned on this site and elsewhere, I would expect that daily injections would be best, perhaps with a lower weekly dose overall. I want to see what Defy recommends first - I am hesitant to make that decision on my own. Even though you aren't low SBGH, what did you notice when...

I saw some pretty compelling presentations by Dr. Neal Rouzier. He even managed to convince Dr. Crisler. Figured I would drop it for a month or two and see how I feel.

So here is an update: Got some basic bloodwork through insurance/PCP which wouldn't cover several tests but what I did get is enough for me to share as it raises some concerns: Testosterone, Serum ..... (241 - 827 ng/dL) ........ 1096 On trough, 60 hours post injection SHBG ............. (10 -...

Ok guys, this was my feedback from Defy: - Testosterone came back at 1376. Free Testoesterone came back at 45. Doc suspects this is due to a very good response to HCG. So, reduce Testosterone dose from .25 (50mg) to .23 (46mg) over next two weeks. I can go down to .22 if I want to try that...

Thanks, I'll be sure to bring it up on my follow-up. I'll post an update right after.

Pregnalone has not come up. My follow-up is in two days. Is there a link between DHEA and Pregnalone?

Got my estradiol... 46.4

Saw that recommendation in several exchanges on this forum. Due to half lives between T-Cyp and the AI. As I understand it, T-Cyp starts to peak after about 24hrs and that's the best time for the AI to be doing it's thing.

Here is my update after three months on TRT with Defy! I feel very good. I have not had my follow-up because estradiol tests are delayed at LabCorp but here are the test results taken after 11 weeks. Testosterone, Serum ..... (264 - 916 ng/dL) ........ 197 --> 1376 Testosterone, Free ...

Man, another reference to "Post-Finasteride syndrome". I took it along with rogaine in my early 20's, finasteride only for a 2 or 3 months. I've been wondering recently if this contributed to my Low-T.

I did take one .125 pill and felt much much much better within a couple of hours. This was Day 9 on TRT after having injected the day before. I have had two more injection days since and have felt really good. I've been hyper aware of my mood to react if needed but I have felt good. I hope to...

So I got numbers back. On day 5, which was an injection day, I got bloods drawn (pre-injection). So this is after my first two shots of Test C (50mg). Test was 532 (compared to 197 a month before starting TRT) and estradiol was 38 (compared to 21 a month before starting TRT). Since the blood...

What do you guys think about DHEA supplementation based on my levels? With a reference range of 102-416 ug/dL, my pre-TRT labs put me at 235. Defy prescribed 25mg every night when I mentioned my trouble sleeping. Specifically, that levels around 400mg would yield the best benefit for sleep and...

Good to know! I've seen similar comments regarding T levels and sleep. Coincidentally, I had a regular doctor's checkup scheduled for yesterday and had labs done this morning before my third round of injections. I have held off on the AI until I think I need it. How meaningful will the...

This makes a lot of sense! But it leads me to this question: does the body not react differently depending on the timeof day you inject? No play with the natural ebb and flow of hormone patterns? Or does that only matter for daily injections?

Thank you for your input, I understand this but was wondering if this was a common issue when starting TRT. I guess a lot of things can change or be unusual until a new normal is achieved.

How common is trouble sleeping after staying TRT? I've had trouble sleeping since my early 20s. A year ago I started vaping cannabis - biggest quality of life adjustment I have ever made. I could fall asleep and sleep deeply consistently for the first time in my life. Today is day 4 since I...

I want to thank everyone for their input, suggestions and for sharing your experiences! I took my first shots yesterday. Did T Cyp and HCG subcutaneous into the stomach fat. Was nervous because I do not have much fat anywhere, lost a tiny bit of "man oil" but seems to have been done right...