When my libido was at its best, I was on about 150 mg test cyp, 250iu hcg 2x week and some arimidex.. I actually think it was best when I wasnt using so much adex.. Awful drug.
In hindsight and with my experiences during pct and after - I truly believe arimidex was the reason I couldnt make my...
Ah, that`s a bit over where i was pre trt. Did not feel good ^^
I had some success with several day fasting every now and then during and after pct.. definitely made me feel much better.
When you get down to a low level of T, it`s hard to metabolize carbohydrates effectively it seems.. I always...
With fluctuating e2 it`s really hard to get good results, especially when it comes to libido and anxiety.. that`s my experience anyways.
Is it a possibility your hcg is too high? your shbg could possibly get a little higher if you go to 3 times a week with the test. That might make e2 a little...
Ok, I got my bloodwork now. Blood was taken on the 12.12.2018
That`s almost 2 months after I stopped the serms.
Testosterone - 26,5 nmol/l !! that`s 764 ng/dl
E2 - 0,11 nmol/l 0,00 - 0.20 nmol/l
LH - 2,9 IU/l 1,7 - 8,6 IU/l
FSH - 0,9...
What protocol are you on, and do you know if you are primary or secondary hypogonadism?
In my case when I was on, I had good libido with some protocols, and bad with others..
What`s your e2? That could be causing your anxiety.
Hey, sorry to hear you`re having a difficult time.. it`s been about 2 months off clomid for me aswell.
Been both some good times and some bad ones.
I have faced the same realization as I did prior to starting trt.. If I`m gonna feel good, I have to really be strict with my diet. If I eat too...
So your testicles don`t respond to hcg at all?
Were you diagnosed as primary hypogonadal prior to starting trt?
If that`s the case, going off is not a good option for you I`m afraid.
I was on 100 iu ed hcg prior to going off. 3 days after last prop shot, I increased it to 200iu ed for the...
Not far from my experience.
I don`t have much experience with DIM, but the little I have, it doesnt really do very much for me. I feel the precursor to DIM (Indole 3 Carbinole) does more, but it`s hard to say. Right now I`m using only the I3C and Calcium D-Glucarate for e2 control.
I think...
My experience when I got off now, I didnt reach a bottom. There was some sort of down and up in the transitioning between hcg and nolva/clomid, but it was very minor.
However, I did combine the pct with a few 72hour fasts. That really helped me.
Anxiety is mostly gone when you dont eat, and the...
I have the same experience with the boron. Raging boners in the morning, but not really very high libido through the day.
I do think that is a good start though.
Homeostasis and normalization of receptor sensitivite should take alot more than a few weeks/a month.
Yeah I can see your point.
I was thinking the same the last time I tried to go off.
But didnt meet my hopes.. felt like utter garbage after 14-16 days or so, and started questioning why I was going off.. was I gonna feel that way forever etc.. =p
Not easy to think clear with both bottomed out...
I havent tried the really high dose T, but I always felt better on the lower doses.
I would say 75mg e/w and 100iu hcg ed, no ai was what I felt best on.
But I didnt feel amazing, so figured i could do an attempt at going off.
I wouldnt recommend quitting cold turkey.. for most people, the emotional sides will be really nasty.
I had a really smooth coming off when I did it the way I explained in the original post.
In some countries - self prescribing is the only option.
Have had both ups and downs, mostly due to the difficulty controlling e2, and cortisol issues that stem from that. `as needed` means exactly that.
Looking forward to maximizing life without having to think about these things.
More blood...
I dont see any reason your e2 would get any lower on it.
Have you been running arimidex with the clomid? And are you still taking it?
My experience is my e2 has gone up the last week supplementing boron. Can`t confirm with bloods yet, but the way my libido has changed and sensitivity really...
Hey, sorry to hear you wasted good years of your life aswell.
I have the same intolerance to AI`s.. a quarter pill would leave me low for well over a week.
If you go off, then make sure all the exogenous T is out of your body before you start serms.
If you are low body fat%, making a recovery...
Not sure, but from my research anything under 20mg daily is safe long term.
Nothing Boring About Boron
A collection of studies on Boron.. Recommend reading the whole thing. Very interesting.
Hey
I think we are in the same boat here.
I would definitely recommend boron..
Had no libido for a bit over 2 weeks after discontinuing the serms and had to force myself to bother having sex with my girlfriend.
After a few days of 6-8mg of boron a day, libido is not raging, but maybe improved...
So far very much so. I think clearer, more emotional stable.. everything is more consistent.
I am only a bit over 3 weeks post serms, but most markers have only gone up since quitting the serms.
Blood test in the end of November.
Also, forgot to mention.
I drove my bodyfat down to 10% during the restart.
Did this to hopefully aromatize less during and after pct.
Did it by a few 72hour fasts with water with salt and potassium in it.
Am also eating alot more saturated fat. Doing mostly fat and protein from morning to...
Hi
Posting my story here, for the off chance someone can learn something from it.
Male 34 years old.
Made a bad desicion 6 years ago, and did an oral only cycle for 6 weeks.
Only 40mg turinabol ed. Didnt read anything about this stuff until after I was done.
Went off after 6 weeks, and felt...