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    Pregnenolone – By Gene Devine

    Hey Vince do you have a full list of the supplements you take each day, doses, and timing? Do you know if I would need to supplement DHEA if my DHEA is in range according to labcorp's range ? I'm 29 and I'm at 275.3 on the blood test for DHEA sulfate (range is 138.5 -472.5). Thanks
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    New Blood Work from Dailies of Test + HCG for 3 Months Now

    It seems like melatonion doesn't ever help any other ideas? Is a little bit higher blood pressure and increased heart rate common for TRT?
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    New Blood Work from Dailies of Test + HCG for 3 Months Now

    I donated blood yesterday and my blood pressure is definitely high, as well as my resting pulse. Is anyone else having this issue on TRT? I sometimes can't sleep because my heart will be racing and like tonight where I was trying to watch a movie and my heart was just racing. My blood pressure...
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    New Blood Work from Dailies of Test + HCG for 3 Months Now

    Hey I always do the labwork before I inject and these were both done fasting. If I go back to my old protocol i would need to add in an anti estrogen though. Also on my old protocol i was doing HCG today then test tomorrow then HCG then test. I would alternate them so I was still injecting...
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    New Blood Work from Dailies of Test + HCG for 3 Months Now

    Hey are we looking at the same testosterone panel label March2018 at the bottom? I also uploaded my November 2017 ome as well. My TT is only 440 now on these dailies. I could probably load it into one syringe but that doesn't seem to be the problem. Hey, I just mentioned video games help get my...
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    New Blood Work from Dailies of Test + HCG for 3 Months Now

    Hey guys, I posted another thread about your opinion on what my protocol should be coming from EOD dosing of HCG + Test cyp and I started the new protocol January 13th, 2018. I just got blood work last week due to moving back in with parents for the 2nd time in a few months (we are staying this...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    I was just worried it was because it didn't absorb as well or something :P. I'm glad to hear it is just because you didn't personally like the spot. I have just been going about 2 inches from my belly button for the test shot and then further away on the same side for hcg. :)
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Why did it never appeal to you just wondering? I love it in the stomach haha. I use it by my waistline too. So I don't need to worry about aspirating at all? I didn't aspirate today :P
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Hey so now I'm curious about sub q injections. I actually did my hcg and test cyp both in my mid section today. The test I do with a 29 1/2 needle and the hcg is a 31 gauge 5/16 i believe. Anyways, I was watching Dr. Crisler's video where he injects his T into his belly fat as well and uses...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Interesting. I'm not sure if it is positive or not for me since it is all I have known while on TRT on and off for the last couple of years. I have to use it to help with fertility since I'm only 29 and want to have kids one day or else I probably wouldn't use it at all I'm assuming.
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Hey I think that it could either A)just be my anxiety B) my slightly blocked nasal passage on my right nostril that causes mild obstructive sleep apnea that I'm currently trying to get with a sleep doc about. C) Taking a new multi-vitamin (one a day 50+ (I'm not 50 but I chose this one because...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Yes sir I was just seeing if anyone else had anything happen similar to this. It was more out of curiosity. I'm going to stay contact on this regimen for 6 weeks then do blood tests.
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Hey since I just started this 3 days ago at 16mg I probably need to at least see where I'm at with bloods before I start changing dosing again don't you think? These hot flashes/face being flush and ears and face being hot might just be my body getting used to it or it could be anxiety. I was...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Sounds good thank you! So far it's only been a few days but I feel like I'm starting to feel a bit better on these daily injections. I have been getting these hot flashes where my face gets hot randomly and flush these last couple of days and minor headaches. Did you guys get any of these...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Oh okay I probably don't notice things like this since I haven't really been dialed in so once I am dialed in maybe I will notice more things like this, lol. Thanks for the info though it is very helpful! Yeah I agree. Like I said before when I was doing start glute injections with the longer...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    That's good you use the same needles. I thought sticking it shallow IM was safe and doing the circle method (right glute by hip bone then right shoulder then left shoulder then left glute by hip bone )? Do you know how much longer it takes to absorb with sub q versus shallow im injections ? So...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    I'm assuming you use a 31 gauge 1/2 for hcg and a 29 1/2 for test like me? 2 needles right? Or Nelson 1 needle method ? I don't think Nelsons method is possible for us if we freeze our hcg needles though. Do you the same side with the 2 different needles in 2 spots? I really wish I liked sub q...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Yeah I think mine always come from empower I'm not sure how I would check to see how it's weak though lol. Also Vince since you typically use two different syringes to do shallow im for HCG and test, do you do the HCG in the same shoulder that you do test in that day? I'm just trying to find out...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Thanks for the good info. I'm assuming every day you just stick one in the fridge to thaw over night right?
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Do you store it in the freezer door? How soon do you start freezing it? I figured I would just freeze half of the bottles worth into syringes and then thaw them the night before as needed and then use the other half of the bottle in the fridge. Should i also worry about what temperatures I have...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Hmmm very interesting. How do you know it's a "weak" bottle? What do you do to combat HCG shelf life and having a weak bottle. None of us can use hcg within 7 days or even 30 to 45 days usually. A guy who was on just test and no HCG for almost a year started doing daily hcg injections and he...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Very interesting read. I've never frozen my needles but figured I might as well so I'm getting the highest potency that I possibly can since I don't know much about how the compounding pharmacy makes their HCG.
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Thank you for this Vince. Where did you get the info that HCG is good for 90 Days. Every research study I see says it is good refrigerated after being mixed for up to 30 days maybe even less and my doc's compounding pharmacy told me 45 days. A lot of mixed reviews out there so I'm probably just...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Guys I started the protocol today with 16mg of test and 100iu of hcg. I'm just going to do it daily since it is easier for me to remember and according to Crisler he said the best protocol in his opinion is to do a t gel and hcg daily. I'm not doing a t gel but this should be just as good if not...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Thank you for this I always thought HCG should be sub q. So I take it you don't pinch the skin for the HCG either then? I didn't know I didn't have to aspirate that's awesome! I've always been afraid of hitting a vein or artery. Finally, what does your schedule look like for hcg then? I don't...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Hey Vince I definitely want to do 16mg daily of test cyp. That's. 08 on the syringe. My goal is to get my hematocrit down too and not have to donate. I also use a 29 .5 inch needle. Why is your HCG so high ? I've been averaging 600 to 800iu a week on the EOD schedule at 200iu. Any reason you...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Hey I'm on klonopon currently taking 1mg 2x per day. I have an AI from my doctor and I only have to do .2mg of it to get me back in the high 20s or low 30s on the sensitive estrogen test. If I take DIM 200mg daily and I'm sure if I start taking that calcium supp then I wouldn't even need an AI...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    It sounds like if I want to do daily then i should go to 15mg daily and try 100iu of hcg daily too since that's the same as 200iu every other day. Or I could stick with 200iu EOD and do test daily. It just makes sense for me to try to do everything daily if possible. I've only ever had to use...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    If I did 20mg EOD that would land me probably in the 400s for total T though? I'm trying to switch to an every day protocol. So you think low SBGH guys need a low total t number to feel good ? What would I do for hcg dosing and day Then? There are so many different opinions it's hard to figure...
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    So just go with the every day protocol of 20mg of test and hcg daily too or just hcg 2x per week? I'm so confused with all of this info and just want to feel better! :(
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    What Would a Daily Protocol Look Like For Me?

    Thank you so much for this info. I will definitely do the shallow intramuscular. I did 20mg of test in my thigh today with a 29 1/2 needle. Do you do the same for hcg or should I just stick to sub q stomach injections for hcg? I was just going to do 2 separate needles and cannot decide if I...
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