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gonna go to twice a week 25mg and test in 4 weeks.

Gonna see what endo says about cutting down my dose.

I would agree kinda but my E is at 48... that is on the high side when everyone says 20-22 is the "sweet spot" I just want to feel better. 4 months ago I didn't have ANY issues.. What about supplementing with DIM? Would it hurt?

I'm worried my endo won't do anything about the high estrogen, when I said I wanted the e2 ultra sensitive she said it didn't matter cause the clomid would skew the results... pretty wortied(anxiety off the charts) about tomorrow's appointment I really need to feel better, about to lose my job...

Any other alternatives to lower E besides prescriptions?

Yea I don't know if I should wait to see if level will drop on it's own? Only on clomid three weeks when this test was taken it will now be 5 weeks on clomid tomorrow..

you were right... E2 sensative is 48 ph/mL no range given except low/normal/high.... HIGH Free testosterone 187.8 pg/mL no range given except low/normal/high HIGH where do i go from here?? still symptoms of anxiety/depression/ low libido, some fatigue, am sleeping better but still...

Do you have a progress thread? I to have sleep problems not sure if it's caused by low t or low t caused by sleep. I see a sleep doctor on July 27.

Now what are your plans? What was your e2 level?

Not low Vince?

I agree was thinking that too about the clomid reduction! Wish I had a doctor who knew what is going on to consult with

Just got total test lvl in 787ng/ dl normal range 250-1100 So clomid must be working but still waiting for sensitive e2 test Only got 4 hours of sleep last night and feel like absolute shit today. Really bad. Depressed Anxious/worried Extreme fatigued

how long were you on clomid? success? if not what point made you throw in the towel? im coming up on 4 weeks and things are not looking good.

Test results so far.. t4 Free .81 ng/dL ferritin blood 93.1 ng/mL prolactin blood 8.6 ng/mL LH 4.3 FSH 7.3 miU/ml the results didnt give me any ranges... still waiting for other test... like e2 sensative and free test.. anything i can decipher from the test i have? it will be 4 weeks on...

Thanks for reply, I really don't have a history of benzos the first time taking xanex was in march after not being able to sleep for four days... I then went on the clonazapam in may because it had a longer half life so the theory was i would sleep better... it did work but was still masking...

Do these results from 2013 show that im probably secondary???

any update?

im using the hospitals lab.. not sure who they go through. I agree about your thoughts of the E2, hopefully she will be more understanding when the test results come.

Yea hopefully she stays that way. another note... (to me a break through) THe ENDO asked if i could try to get the labs from the fertility doctor to compare to tomorrows test. SO this after noon i went there and was actually able to get them from 2013! he didnt test for everything but...

' Ok got back from ENdo, she was very understanding and seemed a little educated but still threw some red flags... wasnt to concerned with estrodial and says that the clomid will "probably" skew the results i insisted we test for it anyways... said my 212 testosterone level was lower but...

ty for the reply. i will make sure she talks about estradiol. and make sure blood test contains a e2 sensative test.

yea it didnt do anything.... temazapam, trazodone, benedryl, ambien, clonazapam.... and a couple others i cant remember.... didnt do anything i was in really bad shape some kind of hormonal crash i cant seem to find any info or like accounts of.. Im willing to pay out of pocket, so Defy...

with that being said i should be able to see if im primary or secondary... via "clomid test"?

Yep i have researched PCT/restart.. thats why im wondering if i just need a restart? something happened in march im just not not sure what, whether it was sleep deprivation, sickness, cold medication but something happened that screwed me up... I will make sure to get LH and FSH tested. but do...

TL:DR.. 37yr old male suspected low t got tested and is in deed low 212, put myself basically on prescribed clomid 3 weeks ago, doing better but not good. first ENDO appointment tomorrow need advice to i dont go in "unarmed" not against TRT but really dont like idea of lifelong commitment but...