this is very helpful, thank you. I definitely would rather have 'slightly elevated' E than too low. I've found it to be quite a slippery slope for most of this year, trying to dial in the exact right dosage and timing.
The reason I switched to E3/4D, was that I 'thought' I was feeling some...
any suggested time for the next set of tests?
aromasin is strong, so I was originally thinking of taking 12.5mg ED for 3-5 days, then switching to EOD - with the hopes that it'd already have been lowered to at least within range, then do a follow up test.
my recent tests showed E2 at 83.52 pg/mL, so I've gone from taking aromasin 12.5mg E3D to ED for the past 4 days.
If I'm aiming to get it down to 20-30 pg/mL while still taking 220mg T/week and 200mg Deca/week, how long would you suggest taking aromasin 12.5mg ED?
In other words, roughly how...
I would definitely take aromasin to bring the extremely high E2 levels down. if there's already a high baseline of E2, and adding more T that could aromatize, I would imagine the E2 levels either stay the same or increase?
I do Sundays and Thursdays, any time really. Not so bothered about perfect blood levels, as I think twice a week on a medium a ester is already steady enough.
I took 12.5mg aromasin 3 days in a row, took today off - and was planning on starting EOD tomorrow. do you think that will bring it down to where it should be, or do I need to take it ED for longer?
I wish! I'm in Asia, the last 2 tests are from the same lab - first was a different one. Estradiol (ECLIA) Male: 25.80~60.70.
Perhaps you're talking about the unit? pg/mL? I'll ask around
thanks for pointing that out. Those ranges were from the first clinic/lab, just didn't change my spreadsheet tracker. The last 2 are from the same clinic/, and the exact description is "Estradiol (ECLIA) Male: 25.80~60.70"
I'm in Asia, and I don't believe there is any other estradiol test in my...
thanks Vince, much appreciated. I actually wish there was a really user-friendly app/website that I could plug all these details in. Even better if it could automatically convert units, as different clinics/countries use different units.
anyhow, RE your question - makes total sense. As you can...
Brief history - found a tumor in my pituitary gland, and was prescribed HRT almost 12 months ago, namely HGH and TRT. I've also had several spinal surgeries and some nagging pains, so decided to try out a therapeutic Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) dose recently.
My protocol for the past 6 months...
I was in pretty much the exact same position 12 months ago - fat, couldn't lose weight, fatigue, low libido, brain fog, no motivation, anxiety, joint pains - the whole shebang.
the difference is that I actually had T of around 300. HOWEVER, even when I started TRT - that didn't 'magically' fix...
I definitely don't want to be at 55, as I was super bloated, and found myself weepy during TV commercials! But OK, thanks for your insights, I'll probably lower my Aromasin intake.
I'm confused, as I see some people being on a TRT dose without using any AI, or very little of something like...
More detailed bloods can be seen here https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?9816-2nd-Bloods-for-2017-Concerned-Suggestions-Please
Description
Unit
Reference Range
Jan-9-17
Feb-24-17
Estradiol
pg/mL
11.00-44.00
55
20.78
Testosterone
ng/dL
240.24-870.68
673.87
1077
I've...
thanks CoastWatcher, much appreciated.
So I've been on TRT since October 2016, and HGH since December 2016. Since January 2, 2017 - I've been on a hardcore mission to get in the best shape of my life. After being to hell and back last year (spinal surgery), I want to know how it feels to...
thanks everyone, for you insights. I had irregularities in a bunch of hormones, including T, E, DHEA, Progesterone, HGH, probably another few I don't remember right now - so it's hard to pinpoint exactly what's causing what. And it's all just in the past 3 weeks that I've managed to get some...
not surprised in the slightest! I went through several docs last year, very similar experiences - not even mentioning AI's. Also, first gave me a 10mg dose one week, then 100mg the next week! I ended up with E levels through the roof, and they gave me Anastrazole - which didn't work well at all...
My last bloods came in with Progesterone (<0.25-0.56) 1.87 ng/mL - over triple the higher end of the scale.
I've been searching, and can see that elevated Progesterone messes with things like libido, energy levels, sleep, is a precursor for T and E, erectile function etc.
However, I can't...
Without going into too much detail, I had a really rough time with my health in 2016 - had my 2nd spinal surgery, 2 x bulging discs replaced with prosthetics.
I think it was a mixture of working too many hours behind a desk, high stress, not exercising, bad posture, bad lifestyle for 5-6...
are you 100% sure that the measurement units are the same as the first set of tests? Seems impossible that T would go from 281 down to 31, and E2 from 9 to over 1,000! What's the time-frame in between tests? Those are massive variances!
Hi and thanks for looking. I'd really appreciate any help I can get here, as unfortunately, I don't have a trusted doctor here (I'm in a 3rd world country). I've put the results outside of normal range in red for easy reference, though some of the values are different to the TRT Targets from...
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