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This is contrary to what Ive read. Do you have any links/research you could share? If read that synthroid/levo was around since 1955 or so and wasnt approved by FDA until like 2002 due to failures. Armour has been around 100 years and only failed by the FDA once in 2005 after losimg potency...

I wanted to update the thread. Re ran labs with exact same protocol/medication of 2 grains NDT in the AM followed by 1.5 grains NDT in afternoon. Results were TSH 11.18 Free T4 .85 Free T3 2.3 As explained before I believe something with these particular bottles of meds are off.. They came...

Another thing I was kicking around, I usually order about 90 days worth when I refill. Last time, was when the Hurricane tore up Houston, which happens to be where one of the compounding labs for Defy is, and I had a big delay so they shipped from another faciltity out of Fl. Well, ofc I ended...

No supplementation, other than D3, selenium, DHEA, and a Multi. As far as the Lab Tech, anything ispossible. I have been very tired the past few weeks and cold. Im fully expecting to be doing some follow up labs.

My first thought is maybe I have a bad batch of meds. My labs seem like Im not taking anything.

I was typically around 2.5-3 on TSH prior. Have been at this dosage for 2.5 yrs with pretty much minimal fluctuation.

NDT is Natural Descicated Thyroid. A common brand is Armour.. I get a compounded version, not certain if they altered the ratios, I dont recall that ever being mentioned.

As the title states,I am stunned at my recent labs. Been on TRT and treatment for Hashi/ Hypo thyroid for 5 years. Protocol has been pretty solid with very minor adjustments along the way as needed. Current #s are concerning. TSH - 20.470 (.45-4.5) Free T4 - .47 (.82- 1.77) Free T3 -...

Hello, I am hoping to get some opinions on my labs. I will post up current as well as a the last few. A little background, About 4-5 years ago I went thru all of the customary symptoms associated with LowT and Hypo. Seen several Dr's, which came to the conclusion that I have Hashimotos as...

Probably a smart thing to do, just in case. Thanks for the input guys

This was the 4-6 week follow up. Next labs wont be for 6 months for them. I can certainly pull what I need in another 4-6 if I want to check T and E. I was originally on 150mg cyp and 500iu a week HCG for 2.5 yrs with another Dr. Then moved to another state, and had to find new care, ended...

Yes, I had my Lab review consultation Wed.. They recommended the increase in Cyp and HCG.. they put a note on file for arimidex, so if I want to fill it I can.. Just wanted to see what y'all thought I havent had any itchy nips or anything of sort that I have noticed.. But I am expecting my E2...

Started with Defy protocol is as follows Initially was Test cyp 75mg/2 week subq HCG 250iu/2week No AI. Never needed before, previously donated blood every 2-3 months due to hemo 4 week labs showed TT@494 Free T was 18 the upper end of scale was 21 E2 sensitive was 45.6 They are having...

Dr Crisler has a video on youtube describing the proper way to inject test cyp via subq. If I remember correctly he said not to pinch or massage the area. http://youtu.be/n98LOFQwUGA

Typically ive seen for TRT the average around .25 the day of or after injection. The new method is 2 injections a week subq. When guys runs cycle and inj upwards of 500-600mg a week they do around .5 EOD. As food for thought. Arimidex is potent better to start low and titrate up as needed. No...

You need to run proper labs that include LH, FSH, E2, full thyroid panel, comp metabolic panel etc. Being in the 500 range naturally how did you feel? If you felt fine why worry about a number and where you fall on the "scale range"? You should be trying to determine with your Dr " why" your...

Free Testosterone is more important than Total Test.. and your free Test is high so you could probably reduce your weekly amount by a little bit which will in turn lower your respective E2 levels along with it.. Just my .2, but Im sure the Vets on here will chime in..

Good to know jasen thank you. That could have been the case. 2 visits a year but yes was over $200 for a visit. No monthly fee, the price I paid thru his office for APS was about what I paid for local pharmacy.

Thank you for your response jasen. I was thinking about giving this Dr a chance but I think I am just going to switch. As you're not the only one to suggest this protocol is not good. Was hoping I could get Ins to pay for some of this, but that didn't happen either.

I have a Dr, putting me on Test cream and Oral HCG 1000iu twice a week.. Never heard of oral HCG. Also thought that 2000iu's a week sounds like a ton of HCG, are there any studies showing Desensitizing of the Leydig cells from too much HCG? Might be changing Doctors, as this protocol just...

Jaybees, I recently found a Dr in Austin that is starting me on HCG monotherapy like you requested.. name Dr George D Martinez with the Austin Clinic. 512-250-5577

OP, I used to live in NorCal and would use Dr. Karlis Ullis who is based in Santa Monica.. He follows Crisler's protocols.. He uses APS compounding Pharmacy, which is supposed to be the cheapest out there...Might give him a try

Wow is right.. the Dr in SoCal I used for TRT (2.5 yrs) uses APS but charged me $100 per vial of Test cyp and about $110 for the 11000 HCG.... Been getting ripped I guess..