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I've wondered...if guys are not doing well with daily because there isn't any peaks and dips, then why do guys do well on EOD and twice per week? Does the peak and dip not matter how frequent they are, just the they happen? If that's the case...could alternating 6mg and 8mg daily do any good?

Gotcha. Very bizarre. What's your current protocol?

What were the side effects from steady hormones?

7mg per day...8 weeks in from increasing from 5mg for months. 10mg daily had me at very top of free T range, and 5mg had me at very bottom of free T range.

Thanks. I get between 150g to 200g of protein per day normal and I weigh 217. Going by the Stronger By Science recommendations of 1.6 to 2.2g per kg, I think I should be ok there, and going above doesn't seem to help in the short term at least. I never caffeine and I agree with you there. I...

This could be part of it. Thanks.

I've wondered this for myself...the cfs at least.

I hear ya, but we're not talking about anything crazy. For example, this past week deadlift workout was 5/3/1, the 1's week, so I did the amrap and did 4 reps...maybe could've got 5, but that's it...one hard set. Did some inverted row, reverse cable flies and close grip bench... that was it and...

Does it effect your sleep as well? I think I'm pretty good at not training too hard too often, but it severity definitely correlates with heavy deadlifts and squats

Thanks. It could be that, but a little unlikely given how I workout. I don't hit failure too often, take light every days every so often, took 6 months off last year, only worked out twice per week for several months and only recently went to 4 days per week to do less per workout. But...

Does anyone else get a hangover from working out the following day? The feeling is an overall bad feeling hard to describe, but similar to that feeling when you haven't slept at all for a few days, and includes some brain fog, memory impairment, irritability, lowered mood, and headache.

After beginning a new protocol and testing in 6 weeks, when should one retest after that? And when to test CBC?

Well, that's why I'm doing both injections and pills now.

For me, injections seem to be necessary. Between sublingual and quick dissolve my levels dropped from 500 to 362 over a few months, eating plenty of meat as well.

Yikes... yeah that's higher than my comfort level.

Thanks. How high did the hct rise in the 56mg per week? I'm at 49mg per week with daily 7mg dosing.

Well, 1mg per shot isn't a lot when treating a deficiency, is it? How much testosterone are/were you on during your b12 shots? How high did your hgb and hct get? I could be wrong, but from my understanding, b12 will only drive erythrocytosis as far as wherever else is driving it...hope I'm...

I'm supposed to inject 1mg every 2 weeks of b12. I'm thinking I should do 500mcg once a week instead subq.

So far, the night of each injection has been incredible sleep, but the following back to normal. Doctor said to inject because my levels are dropping while supplementing and eating plenty. I guess I'm low on intrinsic factor.

Thanks. What's your dosing schedule look like?

Have you had your b12 tested again yet? I've been given a 30mL vial of cyanocobalamin and told 1mL (1mg) every 2 weeks, but that doesn't sound like enough. What was your schedule in the beginning?

I've been prescribed b12 injection every 2 weeks. Ask i have are the insulin pins I use for my test cyp. Is there any reason I can do my b12 shot shadow IM/subq? Also, I'm supposed to use a full mL, is that too much to do subq?

I've had similar bloodwork before where the MCV was on the low end, and when I addressed my b12 and donate deficiencies, it caused the HGB and HCT to fly...once all the way up to 58 HCT. Too high for comfort. It's happened several times.

But did any of those effect your sleep in a positive way?

Have you tried dhea or pregnenolone?

I've resorted to Lunesta and while it does let me fall back asleep, I'm still feeling like I "didn't sleep" the next day. It's so frustrating. Last night, I went to bed with 7 hours to sleep through, but ended up waking up at 2 hours, then woke up every hour until time to get up. Feel...

Lol my bad. Test cyp. Edited original post.

Gentz, I've been on 7mg test cyp daily since January 23rd or so bumping up from 5mg daily. 6 weeks on that is pretty soon, but the question is since I'm doing my shots before bed, does it matter when I get the blood drawn? Should i skip the nightly dose the day before and get it drawn that...

Volume hasn't changed much for me, and had more when I was on 10mg test cyp daily vs 5mg daily.

Well, I meant me having low b12 of messing up my sleep or circadian rhythm...

Right on. I finally manned up and have been on 7mg daily test c for 4 weeks and feeling better. Still no libido, but strength and muscle are up, sleep is mildly improved (pretty sure low b12 is messing this up), and mood is better. I've been curious about the test prop thing, but doubt my...