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Maybe the relevant difference is the level of estrogens. You probably didn't test it on both protocols?

https://thecompleteherbalguide.com/entries/anxiety-stress/herbalguide-natural-sedatives/ One can get a tincture like tinctura sedativa. Also herbal drugs can have side effects, the effects are often milder than pharmaceutical drugs. If you cannot get good sleep, imo, it's better to use a...

How to manage hematocrit

@madman or @Nelson Vergel can you access the full article and maybe share some details? I cannot believe the statements in the abstract, e.g. I would think that any man would see an increase of hematocrit with TRT.

Probably best to act only if you have high E2 symptoms, especially if you cannot get the "sensitive" E2 test. @Nelson Vergel provides all the accurate testings. Unfortunately I cannot make use of his great service because I'm in Europe like you.

That sounds reasonable. Your TT is high, then your TE can be high too. Didn't your Dr recommend dropping the AI?

That's great! What @Cataceous wrote makes sense, it's reasonable. My gut says, if it's working smoothly, don't try to fix it. On the other hand, blood markers don't show the full picture. ... Then again, you are 93 yrs. For how long have you been on TRT?

One can inject e.g. 125mg of TU per week which results theoretically in the same hormone fluctuation as ED TC injections. Yes

Did you try without HCG? Not everybody needs it. Imo you could adjust your doses to achieve free T within normal range. E2 should then come down too and you could discontinue the AI. It's trial and error.

You didn't have these issue with nebido? I think to recall your initial posts here. Wonder if you would just have done fine with once per week injections of nebido.

Was your blood pressure increased?

Update on my 5mg Oxandrolone daily. For me the gym benefits lasted maybe 3-5 weeks. This diminishing returns seem normal for AAS cycles, however, I hoped with the small dose and the daily fluctuations the effects would remain. I was wondering if the same happened to you guys who do use TP...

Immunoassay test?

Thank you for the explanation of immunoassays. Didn't know that. Means I will pause taking Oxandrolone in order to obtain a reliable measurement.

Yes, 125mg TU per week. It's a health blood check, not a sports doping test.

@Nelson Vergel I'm currently taking oxandrolone and going to have a serum T test soon. Will oxandrolone skew the standard European testosterone test?

The best study I can find https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpendo.00100.2006 I think this is a useless thread. For women dhea really makes a difference wrt to T and E but also DHT. For men I guess high dose vitamin C improves recovery, inflammation etc, better than dhea.

In the first study, maybe it was just the increased E that improved recovery. Don't have access to the full text.

Good that you mentioned that. I can only work out 2x per week because of my slow recovery. In this study 100mg was taken daily and it raised estrone by 200% after two weeks. https://www.ergo-log.com/hormonal-impact-dhea-modest-in-men-significant-in-women.html

Anybody experience with DHEA supplementation for improved muscle recovery? I don't use HCG. I will try 100mg dhea as a post workout supplement. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22588361/

I did. I think it depends on the baseline, i.e. the average guy, like me, can notice a significant difference. If I recall correctly, even for vigorous Steve it makes a difference. Of course this will not result in 8kg lean mass gain within 10 weeks.

Interesting. What ester is it, what oil? Maybe you had something additional in the 'mix' like HCG, AAS, Finasteride etc?

I'm curious what your experience was with testosterone only. What are you trying to accomplish with nandrolone base etc. What are you trying to improve? Is it just curiosity if nandrolone base would be better? I understand that it is an experiment.

You could try using less but I guess that's not an option for you...

2 injections per month of TC, now we call it Azmiro Similar to TU every 12 weeks is called Nebido. What about the syringe? Is it a special applicator? I don't see any needle. Ok, looked in the attachment, it's a luer lock and one has to attach the needle. " Important Administration Information...

For a natural athlete you are impressively huge, I assume it's you on your profile picture.

On your lab report, is there SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin)? With that one can calculate your free testosterone. Do you take any meds including hair loss products?

Did you consider overtraining?

That's T4. Not sure that's a good idea. Could try T3. Imo your thyroid values (t3,t4) are ok, however, I'm not an expert. My TSH was about 9 months ago around 4.3 then 3 months ago 2.5. ... that's me... Nelson for sure has experience with many clients