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interesting.... this actually did happen but was many hours after dosage... had a little flutter and my heart took off i couldn't slow 135 per min was little scary but thought was something else with maybe some stress/ anxiety but took a few days to feel normal, adjitated... would be strange for...

right but dose would be 1/4 of what the oral dose if all was sublingual, less liver issues etc. anyway, doesnt make much sense IMO as can get dosages far more dialed taking enclomophene pregnalone seperately and used as an add on to other test protocol.. OR perhaps enclomophene etc is all that...

Here i thought oral T has ultra low bioavailability and causes the most liver issues esp at 600mg a day im guessing they hope u absorb 1/12 of that or so? neat but if it was me id make it all sublingual? T included

im interested when they come out with FSH LH stimulating peptide/hormone...feel like would be more "natural" if had short half life. basically bypass clomid issues would be the hope :) one day injecting lady pee will be as rudementail as the guys who injected cadaver derived HGH.. I wouldn't be...

again purity doesnt equal dosage.. pharmacy that is selling chinese generic isnt the same as indian HCG. yes currently i dont have any evidence that shows indian pharma is properly dosed. do you? no, so thats the evidence we have.. yup could be million things, your right. so all we can do to...

they dont manufacture that size is why we KNOW its not 2000iu bottle.. plenty of under dosed indian generic test if dig though.. those just popped up and recent... anyway, yes, agreed more evidence is needed!

im assuming chinese generic re no batch #? and yes mz labs doesnt show DOSAGE which is the question. not wether it contains hcg, as everyone agrees that there is some hcg in indian hcg for the most part remember even though 15$ ur spending the same or similar potentially per iu as domestic...

yup def dont have to test all your drugs but is smart if getting HCG or other expensive drug from grey market to periodically have them checked.. thats all.. also because this forum makes money off of your HCG purhases they should kick in or at least have SOME responsibility when BY ALL...

Can you share the data that "ALMOST ALL" is guys over 40+? esp over past 10 years would be great to see. THANKS! Thanks big tex I think everyone is on the same page and we all should be concerned about the rise of such bad clinics/pill mills.. found a paper that those nurse PE clinics have seen...

just from life experience and tuff to know as RX are up like 30% over past several years so in general more RX are given. seems like largest increase is PHYS assistants and nurse practitioners. As i said I see influencers brag online how they got there legal test RX big guys who clearly dont...

YES PLEASE POST UP RESULTS OF HCG FROM YOUR BOARD!!! things apparently dropped off after 2021 so hopefully tests after that! things change and things have changed ALOT since 2007 nevermind after 2020... IF can find an HCG test of india pharma brand post 2020 that is actually within 15% even 20%...

This of course is speaking about drugs sold WITHIN canada made elsewhere. not foregin purchases of grey market "export" quality drugs from india china with no real tracking of post marketing data. be careful not to lump these separate things together, VERY VERY different things. things aren't...

yes FDA has faults, but it is ALOT better than 90-95% of the worlds gov oversite. some more liberal countries are better, france norway etc as do a better job keeping chemicals out of food at least, and get more nutritious food. Think of the conservative countries like china or india/mexico, lol...

because they only make 10,000 iu.. even if was suppost to be 5,000iu thats a very bad test no? sure some things may be "wolf tickets" but repeated testing always showing underdosing mostly severally, isnt much of a wolf ticket is it? not sure why folks are defending indian pharma so much...

never a fan of EDTA(the empower nasal gel), its what gives hydroponic veggies the weird hydroponic taste/smell and is not super great for you even in low doses IMO. hormone disruptor bad for kidneys heart etc etc.

@trax123 having more ingredients in empower compounded doesnt make it better. sometimes its just a bulk base gel that is used for several other things and they just add a solvent and teh test for example to it. somethings can be in there for other reasons when used with other products for...

yup not saying MOST drugs from india are underdosed just speaking on HCG.. very different things peptide vs ED meds. glad we can agree it needs to be tested esp from reliable RX before we should recommend it to guys low on cash or trying to conceive. yes super hard to know if its better just...

crazy, alot of influencers are/do. huge guys who obv have no issue with testosterone levels and are under 30 yo using these clinics to get "legit" test. i was being semi hyperbolic with the 'steroids', rather guys just wanting bigger muscles and arent super hypogonadal. like folks going to weed...

compounding pharmacies dont have HPLC NOR do they produce peptides lol. i think that was part of my point. compounding pharmacies do not manufacture rather resell products they order from china. they skirt rules and JUST like supplement companies get a QC paper from china saying its all good...

agreed, concern is mostly hitting crystals and getting TOO high of test levels and random dosages which of course may impact HPTA aXIS alot more than standard dosing. because you cannot OD its not a big deal to public safety HOWEVER very possibly negatively impacting HPTA axis and therefore...

did they test HCG? or just assuming its fine aswell? did they run tests to see contaminations or just dosage was correct? there is many medications that come from india that contain the said API but also 2-3 other API not listed.

yup it will work, point was evidence to date suggests its just 1/4 of dosage it says, beleive i even saw 10,000 iu come back at 2500iu... may be storage from different vendors.. but would be interesting to see results from reliable rx and the brand. what did your group testing show as far as...

benefits of adding HCG is that it stimulates your testicals to produce the other hormones your body needs to function at its best... From my understanding it includes a wide array of cascade pro hormones. you will often see pregnelone or DHEA (but there are more and other forms naturally...

im confused? i didn't see any test results in that thread? all i have seen is alot of the indian pharma HCG is real but very much underdosed. which is fine as long as have a decent idea of what real dosage is...

@Phil Goodman agreed with adderal.. and its not about whats better or worse 2 seperate things can be bad in isolation :) I was one of those kids who was RXd amphetamines... being normally a nice guy when strung out on amphetamines you get hulk angry on come downs so they want to give more drugs...

has anyone seen test results on this? some indian stuff has been coming in 1/4 dosed apparently ie instead of 5000iu its 1500iu... is it recombinant alpha? or pee derived does it say?

I think this is not an over reach at all.. pharmacies selling generic chinese HCG at uber high prices with no more testing than UGL is the real crime. its also impossible for them to gather data for safety as no batch # and less accountability. do you not want drug companies to have certain...

while many folks enjoy pill mill attitude to essentially get legal steroids or "high end" T levels. I think ALOT of guys go to a TRT clinic thinking they are getting "healthy" and smart DRs... It seems to me many TRT if not most are simply pill mills, same as with opiate pill mills make people...

i think i see a small shard near the bottom. take off the label and hold to the light :)

naa if look at actual results they seem pretty consistent. they fudged the data a wee bit as 10000% depends on WHEN they test.. perhaps start to metabolize slower as time goes on? the RANGE looks VERY similar accross those ranges. testosterone is metabolized very quickly so some people are back...

I think eventually they will work this out as alot of studies show varying things.. which to me means they aren't looking at everything.. ie DHT conversion, estrogen, cortisol levels. etc etc. basically this article is going to be used to show there is no differences between male and female...