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I am low shbg...running .05 daily ai with 16mg t per day.

12.5 mg cream to scrotum results in avg t increase of 400ish per the research on cream dosages.

Here's the real question...how do you feel?

No difference

I had a severe carpel tunnel response after taking 30 mg. So, istook a week off and started back at 8mg eod. I still have this strange tightness in my hands and forearms. So I am thinking about stopping it all together because the dose is so low it's not helping with joint pain My2cents

I might give that a try, even though Dr. Saya's minimal research indicates higher doses are needed. I tend to over respond to meds... Ed 18mg test gave me 48 ft at trough...once I stsbilize wi th my latest protocol change, I might try the low dose.

What is Novarel.

I thought you were supposed to check the levels 1 to 2 hours after dosing?

I had the same problem, so I switched to shots. Felt better on the cream til the crash came. Doc at new clinic gave me the option to switch back. But I worry about the crash. Reading your story with interest.

I've tried starting HCG several times over the last two years with similar results. By day 7 I start to have anxiety from it. I've tried 500 eod, 350, and 250 with the same results. I keep trying because it helps with my mood and well being the first couple of days. The doc seemed stumped...

If you felt amazing, why are you chasing the numbers?

Or you are taking too much.

I feel you man... we are in similar boats.

Like I already said...but to add on... at more than 60 mg cream a day (to my thigh which supposedly has less absorb than scrotum) I would have heart palpatations, high bp, and sleep apnea symptoms.

40 mg a day to my thigh had me feeling good anything more gave me high bp and the sides outweighed the benefits. Just goes to show how different we all are. I was over 1000 T with 60 mg a day. I cant imagine taking 200 twice a day.

When I started cream, I felt better the same day. I had to be careful though, over 40mg of cream to the thigh and my BP would jump up in the pm.

The research evidence differs Dcal...you need to give the subq more time to build up.

Will a good looking woman turn your head or a nice ass? If so, libido isn't the issue :)

Most of the people on here are looking for answers because we are not happy with our current protocol...so...those that switched and are happy have probably moved on. I can tell you, I began with a gel and felt much better than shots at all types of dosages and protocols. Seriously considering...

Old post, yes...obviously your body is telling you...100 is too much.

I could never use more than 100 of hcg without major side effects. Way the pros and cons for yourself and consider dropping it.

Consider cutting the dose...I am on injections plus cream because my sex drive and DHT were low on injections alone, and I had that same crash when applying the cream to my scrotum. Doc started me at 25mg/2 clicks per day of cream to the scrotum. I cut that to one per day...same result. I...

Nandralone added to my TRT.

Two weeks of nandralone use dropped my T and FT and raised by E. More details in "started Nandralone" post.

Nandralone labs Used it for one week at 100mg, came off because of arm tingling for a week, started using again for one week at 60 mg. So, three weeks later these are my levels. My t and ft actually dropped from 700 and 25 (not sure what the conversion is for this test, all my prior labs were...

I realize this is two years old, but I added nandralone to my trt with the same result-same hand/forearm numb/tingly/pain---crazy carpel tunnel like symptoms.

Stopping Nandralone...insane levels of tingling and pain in forearms and hands. Anyone every experience this? Like carpel tunnel on blast?

I just completed my first week with Nandrolone; I can't really feel or tell a difference, so far.

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Your post read like my cream journey. I eventually switched to shots because a year ago, on here, that was the advice everyone was giving. Now, many of the posts are touting cream. So, my advice to you ...stick with it. Splitting the dose should help, but it's not an even split. You don't...