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    Labs back... interesting results...

    Did you miss the part in my lengthy post that I stated that I feel like I have had hypo symptoms for a long while (no energy, sleep issues, libido issues, memory/brain fog, can't lose weight, depression, low motivation... etc...) You have read and commented on numerous threads that I have...
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    Labs back... interesting results...

    In regards to my current Thyroid panel... it looks like this because of the NDT and T3 I added in the recent 2+ months... I've been dealing with Hypo symptoms for several years and my Thyroid panels have always looked like the following: my previous Thyroid labs on Aug 2018 looked like...
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    Labs back... interesting results...

    quick backstory... I have been suffering from hypo symptoms for a long while (no energy, sleep issues, libido issues, memory/brain fog, can't lose weight, etc...) my TSH labs have always had T4 and FT4 in bottom 10% range, FT3 in upper 80% of range, and TSH always between 2.2 - 3.9...
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    On Synthyroid - High TSH - Low T4 - Good T3

    My Thyroid lab numbers are exactly like yours from your 2/28/19 only my RT3 is 14.9.... my Thyroid lab numbers have been basically like this for the past 9 plus years and I have many hypo symptoms (brain fog, low energy, low libido, sleep issues, depression, couldn't lose weight, etc..) 2...
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    Natural Testosterone diurnal patterns? trying to dial in TRT and dose timing, etc.

    Well, personally for me studies are great because they validate if something may or may not work... I'll always research studies on an issue before I implement a change or routine because if it has already been proven to be a failure Im not going to repeat a known failure, but even if studies...
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    Natural Testosterone diurnal patterns? trying to dial in TRT and dose timing, etc.

    I've posted my following labs a few places on Excel already but they are relevant to this discussion..... I was on Test Cyp 3 x Wk MWF @ 40mg/IM (120mg/wk total) ...... and the following was my blood work 24hrs after monday injection *labcorp Total Test-643 Free Test- 23.3 E2- <20 (I was using...
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    Natural Testosterone diurnal patterns? trying to dial in TRT and dose timing, etc.

    Obviously you can't perfectly match natural diurnal cycle... but you can get dialed into the best scenario closest to natural cycles.... Since we are naturally highest Test in the morning then if we can figure out when the Test peaks (depending on ester) then you dose accordingly.. obviously...
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    Natural Testosterone diurnal patterns? trying to dial in TRT and dose timing, etc.

    Has there ever been studies done on natural diurnal patterns of healthy males... such as blood taken ever hour or 2 hours throughout a 12-24 period to see how steady Total and Free Test levels are? From my limited research the consensus is that Testosterone is the highest in the AM and falls...
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    My daily Testosterone Propionate diary

    I apologize if I posted this info earlier but this is to give everyone an idea of Cyp to Prop after 24hours..... **For about 6 months I was on Test Cyp 3xWk MWF @ 40mg/IM (120mg/wk total - not injecting Sundays) and .25mg AI 3x/wk...... and the following was my blood work 24hrs after monday...
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    My daily Testosterone Propionate diary

    Ive noticed that too.. no matter how much sleep I get I still wake up wiped out.... and I actually start to feel better towards the evening/night time but I cant work out in the evening because It will keep me awake and I already have problems falling asleep... smdh
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    How often to injection prop/cyp blend?

    IMHO, Adding Prop is pointless for TRT unless you are injecting ED... Cyp and Ent I'd recommend EOD or longer..... Personally, I loved straight Prop ED but I just couldn't tolerate the PIP from Prop esters....
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    Thyroid... numbers and peculiar happening since starting low dose NDT...

    So I read the entire thread and links and Im more confused..... As of now, My FT3 is upper 80%, my total t3 is bottom 1/3, my FT4 is bottom 10% range and my total t4 is bottom 20% of range, and my RT3 is 14.9 (15 or higher is considered high) and I am suffering, have hypo symptoms, fatigue...
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    Testosterone esters

    In my case.. I tried T3 only dosing (not sure what dose I was using) about 7 years ago and looking at my labs it showed the following": TSH- .006 Total T4- 1.3 (4.5-12.0) Total T3- 99 (71-180) * I have no idea why my stupid DR didn't test Free T3 and T4.... so there was a suppression...
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    Thyroid... numbers and peculiar happening since starting low dose NDT...

    So in regards to pooling.... High RT3 indicates there may be/is pooling taking place preventing T3 from doing it's full job... So taking pure T3 should help clear out RT3 by negating the FT4 from converting to additional RT3.... But what about the problem of low Total T4 and T3, and the low...
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    Thyroid... numbers and peculiar happening since starting low dose NDT...

    I just realized this morning when taking my Thyroid dose of 1/2 grain of Armour in AM and 5mcg of T3 in AM/PM (10mcg total) but that I have actually been taking 50mcg of T3 throughout the day... smdh... I thought my my T3 was 5mcg tabs but they are 25mcg tabs... smdh
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    TRT patient feeling better after lowering my prescribed dose

    Vince, I am a low SHBG guy.... For about 9 years of my TRT I have been around SHBG 10 - 13 (16.5 - 55.9) when doing inject 2xWK .... however the last 6 months I have been around SHBG 20-22 after moving to ED/EOD injects.... I have tried 2 1/2 months Test Prop 20mg ED SQ injects and exactly...
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    Thyroid... numbers and peculiar happening since starting low dose NDT...

    So right now I am gonna take 1 grain Armour w/ 5mcg T3 in AM and then take 5mcg T3 in late afternoon.. and see how that goes... Something was definitely happening with only adding 1/2 grain in AM for the past 2 months because I have lost 24lbs without extreme dieting and half-ass work outs due...
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    Thyroid... numbers and peculiar happening since starting low dose NDT...

    last year I was initially given a script for 30qty 15mg Armour w/ 3 refills.... I started and used 1 bottle but didn't start the other 2 bottles and waited because I was having second thoughts on messing with my thyroid... I then went back to my doc and convinced her to go to 30mg/ 30 qty w/ 3...
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    Thyroid... numbers and peculiar happening since starting low dose NDT...

    My doc started me out at 15mg and wanted me to stay there.. after about 3-4 weeks I felt nothing, so i took it upon myself to increase 15 to 30mg based off the Armour website for dosing.... Haven't had blood work yet with the thyroid med because honestly Im going to go by how I feel rather than...
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    Thyroid... numbers and peculiar happening since starting low dose NDT...

    I have cynomel T3... I added 5mcg with my morning dose of Armour... this morning I bumped up my Armour from 1/2grain to 1 grain w/ 5 mcg of T3... I was planning on going with 1/2 grain Armour in late afternoon w/ another 5mcg T3... how does that sound? or should I go another way with Armour...
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    Thyroid... numbers and peculiar happening since starting low dose NDT...

    15mg did nothing for me.... I started seeing weight loss 2 weeks after going to 30mg however it did not improve my other hypo symptoms of brain fog, lack of motivation, depression, energy, etc... so I have upped my dose to 1 grain and added 5mcg of T3 and re-evaluate from there...
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    On Synthyroid - High TSH - Low T4 - Good T3

    So when/if I move up with T3 do I increase the morning dose from 5mcg to 10mcg or do I add another 5mcg in mid-day or 3 or 4 times a day?
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    On Synthyroid - High TSH - Low T4 - Good T3

    As we have spoke previously as my Thyroid lab numbers are almost identical as yours with top 80% of FT3 range, bottom 10% of FT4 range and my RT3 being 14.9 with fluctuating TSH anywhere from 2.3 to 3.9..... I have been on a 1/2 grain Armour in the AM for the past 2 1/2 months and have lost...
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    Thyroid... numbers and peculiar happening since starting low dose NDT...

    I've heard about the monitoring the Temps upon waking but I never tried because my sleep/wake cycle is so erratic depending on when I fall asleep, if I have work, sometimes I wake up and just lay in bed cuz Im too tired to really get out of bed, etc...
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    Thyroid... numbers and peculiar happening since starting low dose NDT...

    Quick backstory... Been TRT for 9-10+ years, initially felt good for the first 6 months but over the next months/several years I became tired, suffering brain fog/memory issues, disinterested in things I was interested in prior, mild depression, up/down libido, sleep issues, weight gain...
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    When to dose NDT? how long to wait to eat after taking?

    I am finally making the full plunge and diving into full Thryoid dosing/replacing with Armour.. for the past 2 months Ive been taking a 1/2 grain every morning and tried waiting 30 min before eating/drinking coffee... but now I am going to go full 1 grain in AM and 1/2 late afternoon...
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    FYI... When in doubt with deciding/purchasing supplements... Just use Kirkland brand (Costco)....

    I've checked about 6 products from Member's Mark B vit, Coq10, vit d, multi-vit, etc.. and they all passed quality checks... I didn't find any reviews for Member's mark fish oil and a few others.... you can order Kirkland products off of Amazon.....
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    FYI... When in doubt with deciding/purchasing supplements... Just use Kirkland brand (Costco)....

    Just FYI for all interested......I have been researching supplements and health products (purchased a sub to Consumerlabs and a few other product test sites) and I have found that Kirkland brand products have passed most/if all testing and have been rated in the top categories as well being the...
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    TRT lack of energy, motivation and loss of sensitivity to stimulants due to E2 ?

    I've had my E2 levels checked and they have been in range for majority of the past 8-9 years with a few exceptions where E2 was elevated, but I haven't had the E2 sensitive which I am going to do on the next blood work go round.....
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    TRT lack of energy, motivation and loss of sensitivity to stimulants due to E2 ?

    Recently tried Adderall at 10mg, 20mg and 30mg and I had no effect... No increase in motivation and/or energy.... this was the first time trying this... So something is definitely wrong with me.... I can't get any energy and motivation for workouts when in the past caffeine, ephedra...
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    Natural daily male Test production correlating to TRT dosing......

    Ok, so your protocol is using test Cyp 200mg/ml Every day,SQ Injects @ 16-20mg..... so you're injecting 8mg-10mg of Test Cyp 200mg/ml which would give you 16-20mg.. correct???
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