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I had the same problem and found HCG at 500IU 2x a week made a HUGE difference especially with sensitivity.

So currently I am using adex 2x a week and seem to have the dosage fairly well down but just wondering do people find it best to use just 2x a week or should i divide the weekly dosage by 7 and take daily for better e2 levels?

I have read many many posts from here and have a pretty good understanding of HCG but have 2 questions if anyone can help. - I know people say that HCG can promote a lot of estrogen inside the testes and adex will not help with that but when you get a blood test will it show that your e2 is high...

Yeah I don't take high E very well at all or low E. My body seems to be very sensitive to it once I go 1-2 points over the max for the test my upper shoulders look like a massive colony of pimples have erupted. I have read many of the experts suggest taking HCG 24 hours before your T injections...

What do you guys do about penis sensitivity if you drop the hcg? Without the hcg it was taking me 30-50 minutes to finish basically. I definitely noticed a massive improvement with the hcg otherwise i would have dropped it by now lol.

cheers Vince that might be the way to go, I started with 2 x 250iu a week as that is what most guys seemed to suggest and started because I lost alot of penis sensitivity without it. How do you feel with just 1x a week and do you supplement with progesterone at all? I know in my lab results mine...

Yes I seem to be an over responder to hcg and Adex and when my E2 goes even slightly out either way i start to get symptoms, the acne got really bad on my shoulders too. Is there a way to test if 150iu hcg 2x a week is enough or do you just go by how you feel?

Feel more tired, Erections not as great, Trouble falling asleep at night, acne has appeared on upper back.

So I started out doing 250mg week and needed very little AI 1/10 week to keep my estrogen in check but then the last 3 months switched to 50mg 2x week (100mg week) and added in 250iu of hcg 2x week This got me the following figures having a really hard time dialing in estrogen now though, was <5...

so it has been 2 weeks and I got my e2 tested again and I am at just over the top again 43.72pg/ml (7.6-42.6) with SHBG 21.40 injecting 50mg 2x week and doing 250IU HCG 2x week. It seems the hcg is really increasing my E2 fast....

I would definitely do what both above have said when I first started TRT for the first 3 months I gained muscle but lost little to no fat. After figuring out my thyroid was not working properly and supplementing with iodine selenium and vitamin d without changing my diet the fat started to fall...

cheers Joe yeah my last reading was 3 days after my dose of adex, good to know yours came back pretty quickly I can feel mine starting to recover but not back to optimal levels yet.

I thought Testosterone was meant to increase happiness and well being, You sure your actually taking proper Testosterone Vince as you seem like a cynical old B***** :D:D:D. Yes since adding in HCG I have had to dial in my protocol again but thanks for the help oh wait you haven't actually helped...

Guys I do not live in america and not flying to america just to take the sensitive test. I see no problem with the regular E2 test over here, my friends use the same and when the test says high we have high e2 symptoms and when the test says low we have low e2 symptoms so it seems pretty spot...

So I started on 250mg 1x week injection and only needed 1/10th an adex tablet a week.Last 2 months I dropped my dose to get into a better trt range of 900 and switched to injecting 2x week subq 50mg each time and cut out the ai as I figured more lower doses I prob didn't need it. I also added in...

I had the same problem after 12 weeks of just testosterone, Added in HCG and after 4 weeks my sensitivity was back to normal, Keep up the hcg and it should return.

what would be the best source to get that from vince? and what would you consider a high dose?

this is what I am currently taking daily, I have been taking just 2 tablets but may double the dose for 3-4 days to replenish my iodine levels, what do you guys think?

So after being on trt for 4 months I was feeling good but exhausted and tired a fair bit, Added in a thyroid tablet with iodine 250mcg and some b vitamins and ashwanga and within 24 hours I had energy back and was feeling great. Been taking it for a week now and have a lot more energy each day...

If I could get away with once a month injections I WOULD, I hate injections and needles lol. In fact most guys I know are the same but you have to do what you have to do. twice a week is enough for me and 2 injections each time Test and HCG, that's 4 a week. ED or EOD is just way too many...

Just did first subq injection and went off fairly easy was surprised at how hard i had to push the plunger to get the oil to come out though lol. When filling up the syringe using 1ml 29G x 1/2 syringes it did take a while to fill up out of the ampule and a bit of air got in but just flicked the...

Where on your legs do you inject, the front or the back and guessing halfway between the knee and groin? DO you aspirate at all or just straight in like with the belly?

cheers guys I will give it a go and see what the results are like. I am using Testoviron Depot from germany I think it is enantate, will this differ from cyp at all for subq injections?

cheers guys i might give subq a go and see how it goes and how my lab results come back after 5-6 weeks.

the tablet i am taking now is a called thyroid energy made by a company called now. my tsh was 2.2 before trt and after 12 weeks on was 4.1, I will get it checked again in 3 weeks but hopefully with the hcg and tablets it will go back down as I already feel a lot better.

Looking to start doing my testosterone injections subq into the love handle area and just wondering if anyone else has had success in this or not, would be great to hear your experiences thanks.

I feel you buddy I am in the exact same position but have somewhat improved dramatically over the last week. I added hcg to my protocol and also added a daily thyroid tablet which basically consists of selenium, b6, b12, magnesium and zinc. The improvement has already been nothing short of...

Could my thyroid problem be as simple as deficiency in B12, iodine or vitamin D as my numbers don't look terrible or is it something that can only be fixed with medication?

Also I see what you are saying about the low T4 and high TSH, Could this be cured by getting iodine and vitamin D levels and B12 checked and corrected or would I need to look at taking a synthetic T4 hormone?

ok thanks that is great to know My PRE TRT bloodwork was Testosterone 10.49 (8.36 - 28.7) SHBG 33.06 (17.3-65.8) Free T 31.73 (23.3-103) E2 11.85 (7.6-42.6)

Bloodwork was taken 2-3 days after my injection. Yes I do not have access to the sensitive E2 test as I do not live in America. I basically lost 7kg of my muscle mass in 6 weeks while getting all my tests done and getting ready to start trt so started on the higher dosage to rebuild as much of...