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I felt nothing and my labs showed nothing.

120 per wk

140mg test cyp + 1000iu hcg split up 2x/wk. My shoulders feel a ton better, but my back still has problems. I have no side effects from cruising on deca. I will add that I’m on a statin, so my lipids are in check via meds.

I have a lot of experience with deca. I am currently on 120 per week as I found anything less than that was not therapeutic for me. I would not expect it to do much for spinal issues. It’s great for joints, but my neck and back pain has not changed much.

Your priority right now should be to get your diabetes under control. I’m assuming you’re type 2. I’ve never heard of metformin or insulin causing your symptoms. You need to go through the alphabet of drugs to find something that works. Change to an endo who specializes in hard to control...

It really depends on how high your caloric deficit is. I would still shoot for 1g protein per pound of lean body mass to minimize muscle loss. This has been my protocol while doing IF + low carb and it has worked well.

I added a therapeutic dose to my protocol due to joint issues. It has helped tremendously. I do cycle on and off of it as it can raise TT and IGF-1 moderately. I can definitely tell a difference when I'm off of it.

This. We all need to get out of the mindset that we should be chasing numbers. I still run into providers who want to treat a number instead of the patient. Some people are E2 sensitive (like me) and feel horrible with what others would consider "normal."

While that is a big first dose, I don't know you can relate what you're feeling to it. I switched from gel to injections and didn't feel mentally off. I would also ask to do your injections every 3.5 days.

Why? Because they don't know better. And no more than 120mg per week is wrong. You take the minumum necessary to address your symptoms. Some people need more and some need less. HCG is great if well tolerated. Not everyone can tolerate it. And no, not everyone needs a SERM or AI.

I had just gotten back from Japan when the OP posted this. I had no idea about the restriction and took my vial and syringes in my checked luggage. No issues btw.

Without an AI, it can take awhile for the gyno symptoms to go away. Even on tamoxifen, it takes me about 6 weeks to recover. (This has been an ongoing battle for me.)

While I initially couldn't fathom that one T injection made you gain ten pounds of water in two weeks, you may want to take a look at this: https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?5817-Water-Retention-Caused-by-Anabolics-and-Testosterone

I would say your experience is similar to mine in terms of results. The issue for the OP is what if your e2 and prolactin are within range? BTW - in a link below, Vincent noted that 65% of adolescents with gyno were able to resolve it with an AI. I call it early gyno because I think at some...

Good point and I think worth discussion. EARLY gyno for me (sub clinical) presents as a painful lump behind the nipple. It may not be diagnosed on a mammogram or ultrasound, but the mass exists and can be palpated. I have been told by my doctor the lumps will always be there, but I cannot...

As someone on this board once told me, maybe you are e2 sensitive. Twice I have had gyno and twice I knocked it out with an AI. My e2 was low the last time I had gyno and I probably "crashed" my e2 with the AI, but I felt zero symptoms from low e2. I would start an AI if it was me. I would...

These are existing lawsuits rather than "new" ones. And it's doubtful all of them will be tried.

I don't know the answer, but my lipid profile actually improved when I switched from topical to injections.

That's a lot of Clomid for some people. I wouldn't do eod if you get sides.

I've used a beard trimmer for years to keep everything short. Started shaving down south when I found grey hairs. Now that my chest hair is greying, I started shaving it too. If you shave weekly, you get used to it IMO.

I'm new to Defy too. So far, so good. Good luck!

I may be wrong, but I took from his post he has given it 8 weeks.

I know Dr. Calkins is sensitive to the risk of crashing your E, but he also seems very receptive to tweaking protocol. You have room to go down, so I would ask about doubling your anastrazole to see if you feel better with lower E. I just switched over to him and he's doubled my dose out of...

Thanks for the replies. I've been battling Hurricane Harvey and I'm finally back at a computer. I'm going to switch my management to Defy. I've got my consult set up in a couple of weeks. Currently I'm on Androgel and I'm not happy with where I am. The test results were about 4 hours or so...

I've been on TRT for years with hardly any adverse side effects. I have been battling early gyno off and on for about a year or so. I had lumps behind the nipples that went away, but I still have pain with one nipple. Took nolva for awhile and that helped and then an OTC e suppressor (which...

What's your estradiol?

Clomid mono therapy killed my libido as well. And the night sweats and hot flashes were horrible.

Is this doctor a podiatrist?:cool:

Night sweats, hot flashes, complete loss of libido. It didn't restart me either.

Sounds like a doc interested in treating numbers instead of treating the patient.

this is great advice because it is the most conservative action to take. You can always go the TRT route later. Having said this, the month I was on Clomid was horrible (but I was 49, coming off long term TRT, and on a higher dose).