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Test does not go bad for like over a year. Not sure where you heard it went bad in 28 days. If that was the case the 10ml vial would be no good because it lasts 3 months.

I think his point is increase from what they would’ve been prior to atrophy, however I don’t want to speak for Vince

It may be Walgreens. I had the same issue with them. They did not want to distribute the 10ml vial. CVS on the other hand will. Have them switch you to CVs

I have a ton of respect for Mr Vergel and I know he said HCG doesn’t raise E2 that much, but I’ve been on TRT 1.5 years / 150 mg twice week (75 x2) & recently got on 500 iu twice weekly HCG. I have never felt better, finally no foggy head and I have all the benefits of the trt, HOWEVER, horribly...

Yup exactly that all went away on the HCG, however I have been on it 3 weeks now and am having significant breast pain on my right side and am going to have to stop. It’s caused my E2 to skyrocket

I hear it being talked about constantly, it’s like the boogeyman. How likely is it? I mean I know it varies, but anyone actually know anyone who ever got it or anyone had it? Seems like you’d have to be an excessive aromatizer to me.

I agree, nipple pain isn’t the only high E2 symptom, but it’s the only one that really indicates a need for an AI. At trt doses (100 - 200 mg week) unless you are a super over aromatizer (spelling lol) an AI is not needed. Guys don’t need to keep their E2 in a specific range. Some guys feel...

All I’m saying is, I was told by the doc my test was low when I started (139) so I began 150mg week. Never really noticed any different feeling. Now that I’ve bumped it to 250, indeed, much better feeling. I’m going to roll with that

Doctors push E2 sweet spot @ 20-30, however that’s now being debunked. I’m just curious why so much focus on a specific range with regard to free test

Right, but that’s not my question

OK I’ll bite on that. But the differences are so minimal, even the half life it’s really not that different. And I feel so much better with the enanthate, there have to be something more to this

Absolutely man I hold less water have less acne have less anxiety I just feel better overall. It’s not that I’m super bloated, have a bunch of pimples, and feel terrible on the cypionate, it’s just a noticeable difference

My question is the latest research shows that the so-called sweet spot for estradiol is not possible because all men are different. What I’m interested in is how come that doesn’t apply to testosterone levels why is it not better for me to have a level of 1500 for example. If all men are...

It’s weird man.

I disagree with Most on this thread. AI should not be used unless you have nipple pain. Not nipple sensitivity not itchy nipples. Those things are all part of testosterone replacement therapy. Anastrozole is a very dangerous drug and should only be used if you are a super high aromatizer. More...

Disagree There is no “sweet spot” across the board for all men. No AI should ever be used unless symptoms of high E2 show themselves (pain in the nipple areas). Nipple sensitivity is absolutely normal when running testosterone. There are many videos and information on this forum evaluating...

My test was 139 when I started TRT 1.5 years ago. I’ve been in the gym 4 days a week ever since my 1st injection. I’ve gained 14 lbs of muscle & I lifted for many months prior to TRT. Getting my levels right absolutely helped me gain muscle

I recently jumped on HCG (500 iu) twice weekly and have never felt better. Complete game changer for me. No longer any foggy headed feeling. I use an insulin syringe, super easy don’t feel a thing

I too noticed feelings of anxiety decreased when switching over to the Enanthate. Overall my body just likes the Enanthate better. I was just curious because they are so closely matched.

Correct, but they are almost identical & from an anabolic standpoint they are the same. Either way, you’re really not answering my question

Sorry bro but Cyp is not more anabolic than Enan. They are both the same in that regard. I’m thinking the E is a bit slower acting.

any thoughts as to why I seem to feel better on the Enanthate vs Cyp? I know esters are slightly different, but I get less acne, less bloat & overall feel better on the E 150mg week Two 75mg injections