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From watching some of his other videos he doesn't seem to think HCG is required with TRT unless the patient desires it for fertility or aesthetics reasons. He did a video on DHEA and Pregnenolone and also really didn't think they mattered if you testosterone levels are fixed. Especially...

Dr Rand talks about this in some of his videos. His once per week guys seem to just lose it when they break the shots up more frequently. Then when they go back to once per week their libido returns. Not saying it's the same for everyone but you may be once of these guys.

This would appear to be highly prone to user error but thanks for the recommendation.

Yes. My last shot was Second week of September, then HCG, then Clomid second week of October. Wife is Due Jan 24. There is some math involved. 4-5 months is my best guess trying to doing this conception math in my head.

I'm in the same boat with this. I have a sneaky suspicion HCG raises prolactin... I have a bloodwork where I had prolactin measured the day after 1000iu HCG shot (I was ending TRT and prepping for a SERM) it was at the top of range... nearly out... I think 25. BUT I was also 6 weeks from my...

I have a couple of floaters in my right eye... my eyes felt very dry during Clomid. Maybe it is in my head, but I'm really spooked bc of the potential for irreversible ocular sides. These lengthy post cycle therapies are not necessary IMO unless you really really need help which you probably...

Some guys have had success adding HMG to the protocol. If your sperm count is really low to the point of basic infertility, quitting TRT may be your fastest option. I had to quit TRT after nearly 2 years bc I was completely infertile even with HCG. I used HCG at higher doses 1000iu EOD for a...

I've done it both ways with an without adex. I have been on and off TRT for over 2 years. I don't feel any different if my E2 is 17 or if it is 40. I do recall Dr Rand saying that elevated estrogens may lead to prostate cancer long term so it is best to control this level and he advocated (at...

At 160mg test cyp per week (80mg e3.5d + .25mg adex + 300iu HCG) I consistently get to 1000 total test, 30 free T and 15-25 E2. No adex and I am 30-40 E2. If I wanted to boost my test dose for awhile to 300mg, how much Adex would I need to stay there 15-25 E2? Should I start by doubling the...

My E2 was 40 when my prolactin came back 25. Same dose of test without Deca nor AI puts me at 30 E2. What is low dose primo to you? I used primo once and it tanked my E2 to 4 at 2 amps a week. 240mg.

When did you quit the HCG? HCG will impair your natural production while Clomid and Nolvadex will NOT. If you recently stopped HCG, I'd give it more time. I recently went thru what you did. I had my last shot then used 1000iu of HCG EOD for 3 weeks, then used Clomid 25mg EOD for 3 weeks. My...

When my libido decreases I'm less happy. I'd say of any variable it is the single most important one to my mood. When I am horny all the time it's like I can smell the roses again and notice beauty. I have more vigor. So while Deca really helped in the gym, I wasn't so happy from the...

I didn't like Deca. Everytime I use it I'm battling the libido hit. It put my prolactin into the mid 20s. 120-200mg.

80mg test cyp, 300iu HCG, .25mg adex E3.5D

80mg test cyp, 300iu HCG, .25 adex E3.5D I use Actavis test cyp and Pregnyl. My urologist treats me, not a clinic. Trough #s TT 1006 FT 30.7 E2 22 Hemoglobin 15.7 Hematocrit 47.9 DHEA-S 271 Pregnenolone 32 This is the second time I have had my DHEA-S tested and it is constant. This is...

I have lower SHBG while on TRT. When I was using Deca alongside my TRT dose my SHBG was 9. On 80mg test cyp + .25mg of adex + 300iu of HCG E3.5D it's in the mid-upper teens. Off TRT it's mid 20s. My most recent trough test was 1006 TT, 22 E2, 31 Free T. I feel f*cking great. I notice...

I have started TRT again after an 8 month layoff to conceive with my wife and was going thru old bloodwork... specifically DHEA levels. I'm 41 now and don't know if I SHOULD be supplementing with DHEA/Preg for long term health. My last bloodwork before I stopped TRT (had been on for 2 years)...

You are right about that but I don't plan on having more kids. I subscribe to the theory that once one has gone thru normal puberty and is fertile, TRT never changes that. Even after years and years, fertility will return in time once one stops the therapy.

I quit TRT after 18 months at 39 and my levels returned to baseline within 2 months of my last injection. My last shot of test cyp was September 8. October 7 my bloodwork showed my total test at 70ng/dl and free T at 1.5 pg/dl to confirm complete ester clearance one month post injection. I...

I thought I would update this. I lost 40 pounds after stopping TRT (I did fasting diet as well so that accelerated it). Since stopping that diet I have regained 15 pounds but still down about 25 pounds from TRT levels. I never got a follow up semen analysis due to a variety of reasons...

I got bloods back from November 11. My last shot was September 8 of 80mg test cyp. I did 3 weeks of Clomid at 25mg EOD starting Oct 8 and 1000iu HCG EOD leading up to that after my last shot. This is 2 weeks after ending Clomid therapy and 2 months after my last shot. Total test 331ng/dl...

I had seen this was possible but I couldn't get it prescribed. Trust me, I tried. And I wanted to not drag this out very long bc my wife was giving me shit about a timetable (that's a different conversation). Both urologists that I saw treat people for fertility... not just vasectomies and...

You're wrong. I had been on HCG and I still had zero sperm.

I thought I'd give an update on this... this has been a complete and total nightmare. Since I had my last shot in early September, I have had 2 colds, a breakthough Covid case, a broken pinky toe in 2 spots, plantar fasciitis on the other foot I'm dealing with now, and I have now lost 18 pounds...

Everything hurts. I've lost 12 pounds from 2020 to 190. My penis still works but my sex drive isn't really there (I've continued taking 5mg of Cialis which I always have taken dailu for over a year). I'm sleeping fine... I am still making it to the gym but I'm getting a bit weaker. The one...

My testosterone test came back 70 ng/dl and free T 15pg/ml

I had my labwork done... LH and FSH. LH - .9 FSH 2.8 My Estradiol came back <19pg/mL - it doesn't seem his lab is very sensitive and I think there is still a testosterone test coming (I may be wrong). This was 31 days since my last injection of 80mg test cyp and 14 days since my last HCG...

I am stopping TRT to regain my fertility and I have been to 2 docs (urologist and endo) and both left me with questions. After TRT 1.5 years I had zero swimmers. Wife wants another baby so I decided to stop TRT (also for a couple other reasons - I couldn't fix my chronically low SHBG/hair...

There have to be other ways to raise shbg

So an interesting thing happened. I had my last test cyp 80mg shot on Sep 6 and have been injecting Pregnyl HCG 1000iu since that day E3D (in preparation for my clomid+tamoxifen) therapy starting 29th and my libido has returned like a monster these last few days. It started w/ridiculous...

Thanks for all of the info. With regards to SHBG, how can I keep it higher when I start TRT again? More frequent injects + lower dose? Pre-TRT my SHBG must have been higher bc I had my TT and FT measured by the same method and the free T was 2.1% whereas now it is 3.4%. Should I be looking...