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I will chime in, listen to the guys above. If its working, stay on hcg. I am still struggling, low t was just a symptom of a huge problem. Above in the thread I mentioned taking so much arimidex. Well, come to find out, my body is not absorbing meds very well. I just hope we can get to the...

Based on the hell I have been through, I think an mri is needed in young males presenting with low t. Because, there could be other problems going on, and years later, they cause you way more trouble than you should have, simply because an mri was not done. Maybe I am wrong. If so, educate me.

Just now looking at my blood work, seems thyroid off too. Tsh was 1.42, free t4 was. .76 range is.61 -1.12. t4 marked low at 3.96 range was 6.09-12.23.

Thanks Nelson, yes, that was the diagnoses. But the dr thinks there is something underlying causing all of this. Started with low t, then empty sella, adrenal insufficiency, diabetes, now this. It is like my body is attacking itself. I have more appts next week.

Have you had an mri of the pituitary?

Hey all, I found out friday my kidneys are in bad shape. I have fanconi syndrome. Basically, I piss all of my minerals out. I have not had a chance to speak to my trt dr. Today is shot day, injust wonder how this effects trt. With adrenal insufficiency, diabetic, this cannot be good.

the cost is still very high. I called and got the price from empower. but cheapest I have found.

I have growth hormone deficiency, and know a lot of people who do. insurance companies I find rarely cover those drugs. most resort to bringing them in somehow.

somebody correct me please, I hope I am wrong. I called empower and aps today. I get my hcg from aps. both said there was no need to take hcg with empty sella syndrome. I hope I have not thrown good money after bad for two years?

I am in the same boat . I am actually wondering if I should try just getting on just hcg. try it and see. 1mg a day of arimidex cannoit be heallthy longterm.

I have an appt with my primary today, I want thyroid all things chexked. they have me dosing the hc so I take most doase in the am when I get up, and one pill at lunch then around three the lastpill. unles I am stres dosing. just to be clear, this is not adrenal fatigue . it is adrenal...

Nelson , no, I would have to say that I am not back to normal on trt and hcg. sex drive comes and goes, no orgasms , testicles hurt at times. I am currently on 100 mgs test c twice a week. This was uppd last bloodckeck because I was at 500. defy has me taking 500 of hcg twice a week. but since...

I have been wondering and I thinking am wrong, but since I see no benefits from hcg now, do you have to have pituitary function for it to work?

Bow does one find out if they are taking enough cortisol for the t3 to get into cells. They have me skiing 40 mgs a day just to keep double vision and headaches away. The main trouble is, there are few drs who know what empty sella is, let alone treating the problems it causes.

In the same boat here man. The 4 x saliva I recommend to everybody with low t. I had a atch stim and failed wonderfully, I have empty sella so no pit gland signal. On hydrocortisone, but it has thrown me into full blown diabetics, so when you start replacement, buy a glucometer. Some days are...

I asked yesterday to be properly tested for gh levels, dr said igf was good. So no need. Well I have studied up enough to know it must be low. Like you said, if pituitary is not there, how is it my gh is normal? According to the dr my thyroid is fine range was like 0 to 5 on tsh. Mine was 1.3...

Get an MRI now. There is way more to it than thyroid. The adrenal stuff is what scares me the most.. They want me to keep a cortisol shot in case I need it and I have to get a medical alert bracelet. That should look good for picking up chicks right? No, get yourself checked out. Head trauma is...

Hello all. I mentioned on here a few weeks back that I had empty sella syndrome. I have been on trt for nearly three years with little benefit and no libido, no energy etc. I read a lot here and elsewhere about guys having the same issues. Let me urge you to have an MRI of the brain done...

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I wrote my old endo this am. When I left him, I was worse than ever. Had me on 150 mgs a day clomid. Test was 200. This is his response. Can anything be told by the numbers here even though they are older? Advice, seeing endo south of here in the am to appease my regular dr. Thomas:

Yes I did, it will give me 27 dollars a year. Cannot afford it. What a shame

I got a message in since he is still treating my low t. No. I do not get any help. If they took into consideration that I caught my wife cheating and I cannot take care of the children and pay 1500 a month child support, then I could get it. The cheapest plan here for me is 600 a month. Just...

Thanks Nelson. Seems to explain in my mind why I am not up to par. Never had a head injury. I read radiation might cause it. I drank a lot of water with radium226 and 228 in it unknowingly, and shortly after is when my troubles started. Either way, got to figure out how to treat. I how dr Saya...

Due to some migraines I started having a few months back and them getting more frequent, my dr had me do an MRI . Well, since we never determined why my t was low and I have no insurance, I told the dr I wanted everything looked at ESP pituitary so I got my money's worth. Only thing of note was...

Well, I am far from an expert and I know I am not worth a toot if my e levels are not tanked. Test a month ago, was feeling pretty good, e on sensitive assay was less than three. Dr told me to cut back on arimidex, I am know feeling like crap, so my e must be back in normal territory. It was...

I am not sure about the hcg, but I am curious about how the healthcare act in Florida. Not being nosey, but how many providers did you have to pick from? Are you happy with what you get for the price pu are paying? I gave up trying to get insurance, it is just not affordable here in NY. I have...

If I could find out Gains would treat all of the trouble, I would be good.

Chris, I agree, there are certainly untreated thyroid and adrenal issues, I have a appt with my primary today. 300 bucks to see the pa. I am going to ask why when one drug does not work, as in treating adrenal fatigue, she does not try anything else. I have no insurance, and since I cannot...

Ok folks, here is the deal. I have had low t since 22. I started treatment almost 2 years ago, I am 35 now. I have gotten some benefits like fat loss, better cholesterol numbers, and no night sweats, but other than that not one thing. My libido is shot, low energy, just feel terrible. I had...

I am pretty sure I have had it for years. I read trt can worsen apnea, and some drs will not put you on trt until everything is dialed in. I think this may be why I did good for a few weeks on trt and have been living in hell ever since. I can tell a big difference. Yesterday was one of the best...

I always suspected I had it. Dr. Conformed and third night tonight on cpap. I have been on trt for 2 years with some good effects, some bad. I am wondering how sleep apnea therapy will effect my trt. My drs are worthless. So I should of had sleep study long ago to rule it out as I read it can...