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They are not in the loop on this, so unless this level of compounding is available at Walgreens without specific instruction from the physician, I'm stuck dealing with .25mg increments for the time being. I realize the situation isn't ideal. It took me years of frustration to find a clinic...

Thats correct, still 200/1500 (testosterone/HCG) weekly, just split EOD

You're correct. Even quarters is a challenge using a razor blade. My pill cutter can't even half the pills without obliterating them. I think I'll do .25 e3d and reassess in a few weeks.

Not currently, as I was on an unfortunately whopping dose. In your experience, does it cost significantly more to fill through a compounding pharmacy? Do you know if there is anything they could do with my current supply of 1mg pills? Now that I've cut the dose by 75%, I have 3 months worth or so.

UPDATE 1/29 Much to my surprise, and excitement, after running EOD injections for both testosterone and HCG, and reducing to .25mg adex EOD, my labs are as follows: TT 1234 FT 34.2 E2 (sensitive) 17 ref(8-35) I'm a little torn at this point, whether to attempt to discontinue arimidex...

Quick update. I've been on .5 mg arimidex 2x per week for 2 weeks now. Feeling pretty good, though I am getting ridiculously hot again at night (this happened when my e2 got out of control last time). I'll let the labs speak for themselves in a couple of weeks. Looking like I will be moving to...

Give us some background. How much testosterone/hCG were you on? How long did you follow that protocol? How long have you been on HCG mono? From my personal experience (I am not a physician, let alone YOUR physician): -150iu seems like a very small does for HCG monotherapy -its going to take a...

Someone who can delve into the biochemistry may correct me, but there's no way you're experiencing a spike in estradiol that occurs immediately post injection and lasts only 6 hours. ESPECIALLY if you're doing subcutaneous injections. This isn't to say HCG isn't leading to aromatization, but the...

Ipi, I was on HCG monotherapy before switching to testosterone + HCG, and can tell you that, for me, there is little subjective difference assuming both can get you to an optimal testosterone value. I enjoy the less frequent injections and not having to buy as much HCG, but apart from that it's...

Good point. I'd be surprised if he didn't have to shell out for IVF though. Or maybe he was that much of a genetic freak.

Got it. I wish this could have hit me about 10 years later, and I wouldn't have to care about either. Thanks Jim.

That's good to hear. So ok, you do 2 test shots per week, and 3 HCG. What's your HCG dose? If you don't mind me asking, do you know if you've maintained your fertility on this regimen? Thank you very much

Jim, do you, or did you ever use HCG alongside this? If so, how often do you dose it? Do you know where your ultrasensitive E2 levels generally are? Thanks brother

I'm 23 years old, which I think was part of the rationale behind the high dose.

I switched from pure hCG to hCG plus testosterone around July. I have also recently changed from hCG three times per week to splitting it up into nightly doses, this could have decreased my peak E2 a bit

100 mg twice per week.

Thanks Vince. I would be 100% willing to go EOD if it means no AI. I'll make sure my E2 doesn't spike after 4 weeks of .5 mg 2x per week. If I'm still in the middle I'll try to kick the AI, and do EOD injections to minimize aromatization.

That's very interesting. I really appreciate it. I'll report back once I get the next set of labs. At least in trying to bump up the E2, I've got a lot of options. If I could get off of the AI, I'd be a happy dude.

Thanks ERO. Where do you get the 4 day figure? I've been reading approximately 48 hours, but obviously I'd like to keep it at two doses per week for convenience. I have looked into Defy. I get such a good price on the Rx's with my insurance it would really hurt to switch. Maybe I'll have to...

How often do you recommend dosing arimidex? Is .5 mg after injections enough? Or should I be breaking them into quarters?

I appreciate it. I will definitely try to titrate down and see where we get in a month or so.

I will go ahead and try this. I'm a bit gunshy, because the reason we wound up at 2mg was because I experienced refractory gyno very quickly after beginning HCG. My standard E2 wouldn't budge off of 40 even when the breast symptoms subsided, so he left it. Unfortunately, as I'm sure you know...

Hey guys, I posted way back about switching from HCG monotherapy to testosterone/HCG. Having been on some sort of HRT for almost 2 years, I'm beginning to develop a stronger intuition for when things "aren't right", and I'm beginning to suspect anastrazole may be the culprit behind malaise I've...

They sure are. Originally they dispensed me 21's, to which I said hellllll no. I just wanted to be sure that the resistance and/or extra bubbling weren't indicators of damage to the suspension or something. Thank you!

How long have you been doing subcutaneous injections with cottonseed oil? That's something I've been wanting to try but I've heard a lot of guys get site reactions. How are your testosterone and estrogen levels?

I think that's what I've been doing wrong. I've developed a habit for impatience on HCG monotherapy for so long. Water based stuff is so much easier to deal with. Thank you for sharing your experience! So glad to confirm I'll do OK with a smaller needle size. I was really dreading stabbing...

Hey Guys, To those of you who've had success using a smaller-than-normal needle to inject Testosterone, do any of you use Cypionate in Cottonseed Oil? I've attempted this a few times with a 27g, 1/2 inch, but have encountered a lot of resistance. I've been using the 23g my doctor prescribed...

I hear what you're saying and I do appreciate the advice. What I'm wondering is if I'm already downregulated after almost a year at this dose. I suppose the only way to find out is to experiment. I just hate messing around after it took so long to find a regimen where I feel like myself...

I'll certainly read more of Dr. Crisler's writing. My concern at this point is that I'm clearly normalized to this level of HCG. I don't suppose I would respond well to tapering down to 1/5 my current dose.

I'm prepared to switch to TRT if I ever experience significant downregulation. But with daily injections totaling 4000 iu weekly, I feel great and my estrogen is in check. I'm a happy camper.

I am on a rather large dose. I believe I began at 1500 iu 2x per week, we later went up to 2000 iu 2x per week, and that seemed to get the testosterone level optimized but I started to over-aromatize so I do inject daily now. My doctor says that EOD is likely more than sufficient but it's not...