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Wow! I was very inspired by Nelson's podcast with Jay Campbell that I listened to today. He has such an incredible story. Thanks Nelson for all that you have given to the lives of so many in need. It's on Jay Campbell's website trtrevolution.com.

For those in the know, what is Dr. Crisler's most up to date protocol. I've gathered that he's recommending 100iu of HCG every morning. I think he also is recommending test injections in the fat pads above the glutes every 3.5 days with a .5" needle. Is this close to his current protocol for...

Does drawing with the same needle as injecting with dull the needle? Should I draw with a bigger needle and backfill a smaller insulin syringe? What do most of you guys do? Thanks

He is doing great work with veterans suffering from traumatic brain injury and hormone definciencies. I have watched several videos and podcasts with Dr Gordon. He seems to be for backfilling the pathways with pregnenolone and dhea like Dr Crisler. He speaks of a "testosterone blend" that he...

I've read that 100mg of test cyp yields about 70mg of usable testosterone. I think test propionate yields something like 86mg of usable test per 100mg. Dr. Gordon refers to using a testosterone blend. So it might not be an apples to apples comparison between what most of us are using and what he...

I'd like to know what's in his testosterone "blend"

One interesting thing I've noticed Dr. Gordon and his patients say is they use a testosterone blend. Maybe he's using a propionate/cypionate blend. If so, maybe his 60mg has more usable testosterone than the typical all cypionate dose.

I've read a little about him and his work with many veterans suffering from traumatic brain injuries. I've read where he says he starts them off with 60mg a week doses. He says he uses such low dosage amounts so he doesn't completely shut down their own system. Is this really possible? I thought...

Thanks for the details ERO

ERO, can you get specific on needle sizes you use and the steps you go through? Thanks

Does anyone think that drawing the test out of the vial dulls the needle prior to injection? If so, what do you do specifically?

For anyone that missed it, this discussion really exploded on the ******** page. Dr. Crisler, Dr. McClain, and Jay Campbell have all joined the discussion. It's really cool to see their interactions and point of views. Check it out if you haven't already.

These are 3 respected men in our brotherhood of hormonal replacement that don't necessarily believe in the necessity of HCG in TRT protocols. Jay and Dr. McClain are both longtime users of testosterone and both have extensive knowledge in the field of testosterone therapy. Has anyone ever heard...

What was your experience? Can having surgery significantly raise T levels?

I was under the impression that pregnenolone supplementation boosted serum pregnenolone levels more than low dose HCG treatment. I've read guys on this forum that are already taking HCG have doctors recommend preg supplementation because their pre/dhea levels are low. Then, when they supplement...

The biggest hormonal pathway that I keep reading concerning testicular shut down is pregnenolone. Couldn't you just supplement with low dose preg and not have to deal with the excess aromatization that HCG induces? Who knows, just a thought. Testosterone and pregnenolone are natural substances...

Just wondering if anyone on the forum feels better on just test without HCG. Is it easier to have a better T/E ratio without HCG? Can you backfill the pathways using just low dose pregnenolone? Interested if anyone has tried to incorporate HCG, but decided they felt better without it.

Yes. I meant to say Thursday evening.

Thanks guys. It's nice knowing I'm not alone on this journey. This forum is great.

I receive a first injection of 120mg test cyp and 300iu HCG today. Going forward starting protocol will be: 60mg Test Cyp and 300iu HCG injected on Monday morning and Tuesday evening Does this sound like a solid place to start?

I've recently seen a few studies that say that testosterone therapy reduces collagen synthesis. Is this true or bs? This has probably already been discussed, but I'm fairly new to the forum.

GeauxBears, what was your total testosterone before starting trt? Also, how long have you been on it and what is your current protocol? Thanks

Nelson, LH: 2.54 FSH: 1.54 TSH: 1.9 Prolactin has always been normal I don't remember the exact number I remember estradiol being tested once and it was on the low end of normal

I'm 36 with a 5mm pit tumor. I've had every test in the book for the past 2 years. The 2 constants are low T in the 240-280 range and high IGF-1 in the 250-350 range. I passed the growth hormone suppression test so my endo says I likely don't have acromegaly. I've been waiting to start...

This thread is kind of discouraging. Anyone out there who has been on trt for over 2 years and feels really good most of the time?

This question should probably be directed towards Dr Saya, Dr Crisler, and Neslon. I've read that HCG can be made from either extracting it from pregnant women's urine or via genetic modification. With all of the bad things we all read about gmo's, does anyone worry about injecting a gmo...

So I guess we will all get our gmo's one way or another haha. Does this concern anyone using the HCG made via gmo?

Vince, the you article you linked says that cottonseed oil is gmo. I've also read that HCG can be either made via gmo or extracted from pregnant women's urine. I wonder how we know which form of HCG we are getting?

What types of allergic reactions occur?

Is one better than the other when it comes to suspending test cyp? My compounding pharm uses sesame oil for test cyp. Does anyone have any experience on this issue?

This is probably a stupid question but anyway here it is. For those that use the 1/2 inch needles, is there a chance for leakage to occur during a hot bath? I didn't know if it was likely that with such a shallow injection depth that the testosterone oil could ooze back out during a bath. Should...