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I'm glad this topic was brought up. Before I started TRT, I would never have known I had low T until I saw the numbers. I had an excessively high libido, no ED problems, etc. I started TRT because the numbers were low and after reading all the great benefits, I thought to myself, "why not"...

I'm on TRT with hCG and I get sperm tests done every year. I started at 250m, went down to 50m after a year and now sit at 75m. Under 20m is considered sub fertile and I've been on TRT for 3 years. It lowered it for me but I'm still fertile with hCG

Hi, Do you still want a child? Getting on TRT might make it more difficult.

Same thing here. I've had painful varicoceles on both sides for years (I've been misdiagnosed all those years) and the docs were telling me that it'll help my fertility (I have issues there too) but it'll probably increase my T level 50 points......100 if I'm extremely lucky. I was 270 before...

Bilateral varicoceles. I had testicle pain for 15 years but none of the many docs I visited could ever figure out the cause. They said I had prostatitis and then epididymitis. I was being treated for both for the past 15 years. Then I started having ED and fertility issues. Part of the...

I actually feel the same. I would not have known except for the new numbers

Hi, When I started Androgel, 4 pumps with HCG EOD @ 300iu's, these were my numbers. All from Labcorp: 7/2014 - 585 & no free T measurement 10/2014 - 506 & 11.9 2/2015 - 697 & 16.7 5/2015 - 660 & 24 I get tested twice a year and I was around 227 pounds during that time. I decided to lose some...

There are too many problems with doing your own TRT. Legal problems.....in NY if you have test without a script, it's a Schedule 2 drug. You might as well get caught with heroin. Then you have to worry about the sterility and strength of the gear you're buying. I'd rather get pharma gear...

This is true. There is also another facor I forgot to mention. Price. My copy for shots are $10 and Androgel is free. If the Androgel was more than $10, I would have stayed on shots

I've been on gels for 2 years now. I got to bed with my wife every night and play with my 12 year old daughter. There is no transference to either of them. Now, I shower every morning and put the get on immediately. Before I go to bed, I shower. I don't walk around without a shirt on and I...

I use Androgel and see great results. I've seen as low as mid 500's and as high as 1000. I've been on it for over 2 years. The rest of the time has been on injections. I've been on TRT for close to 3 years. I prefer the gel. I have a higher libido and just feel better on Androgel than...

This is an excellent reply

I don't know about sus....I've only used cypionate and I started with the common dose of 50MG's twice a week for a total of 100MG's a week. That brought my test level to 1400. I then dropped down to 40MG's twice a week. I never tested at 40MG's because I got tired of sticking myself twice a...

This is just a guess because I'm not a doctor, but I would imagine that it'll be kinda hard to keep DHT in check if you plan on keeping yourself at the 1300-1400 range. If your testosterone is above range, it might shoot your E2 and DHT above range too. Why not try lower ranges? When I first...

Varicocele is an enlarged vein, like a varicose vein in your spermatic cord. Can be painful, can cause fertility problems, testosterone problems, etc. or, you might have it and never have a problem. A spermatocele is something else I also have. It's a cyst in your epididymis. Right now, we're...

Hi, I just had the varicocele ligation surgery last week. Right now I'm still recovering but I walked in there with 2 early morning testosterone readings of 277 and 290. My doc doesn't think it'll raise my levels significantly but it should relieve my pain. He said that, in his readings, that...

That's what my doc said too. He said if I had it treated back in 2001, when I first started feeling symptoms, there was a chance it could turn out better, but he doubts I'll recover. He also said that I've been on TRT for the past 3 years so that makes a difference too. He said that even if...

Hi, I am diagnosed with hypogonadism due to varicoceles. I have a grade 2+ on the right side. It causes a lot of pain and a grade 1 on the left side, that had no pain. I've had testicular pain since 2001 and I was diagnosed with chronic prostatitis and chronic eipdidymitis but, my new doctor...

I just had another blood test and the total was 1045 (348-1197) and free was 24.6 (6.8-21.5). This was on the same 4 pumps of Androgel.

Do you have to worry about scarring?

I've got a question. Wouldn't testosterone propinate be a better choice for daily use since enanthate or cypionate are longer acting esters? Does it make a difference using a long acting ester in such a short timeframe? Are there any drawbacks? Thanks

Get a new doctor. I've reached the point in my life that I'm tired of fighting with doctors. I'm the patient, I pay the insurance and copay, and that pays the doc. Why pay for poor service or service that you're not happy with? Why try to convince a doctor? Just find another one. I had a...

Same here too

Nah, it's not that. I was taking exemenstane with the injections. I just did better on Androgel than injections. Even when I was on 100MG's a week, all the way up to 120MG's a week, I just didn't have the fire like I have with Androgel. Some things work better than others, for me anyway.

OK, let me update this thread. I finished the blast. I did 600MG's a week for 12 weeks. For the last two weeks, went to 800MG's just to finish the bottle. For the first 4 weeks, I continued my Androgel at 4 pumps as a kick start. I continued the 150iu's of HCG a day and added 12.5 of...

Thank you Dr. Saya

Also, why not just inject 500iu's every other day? It seems like that would produce the best results? Are there any side effects of too much hCG?

Wow, this is very interesting. I have a question though. I started at 250iu's every Tues and Thurs. My testicles started getting soft so I moved to 250iu's every M,W,F. I then went to 350 every M,W,F and that was my best result. I eventually moved to Androgel and read that it's best to...

Wow, those are great numbers.

Thanks. I'm going to meet up with him. I really would like to get rid of the pain.

Hi, I started TRT back in October of 2013. I've always used hCG throughout my TRT. Even though my LH and FSH was low normal, I was diagnosed with hypogonadism due to grade 2+ varicocele on my right testicle and a grade 1 varicocele on the left one. The docs have always urged surgery but I've...