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A knowledgeable good doc would definitely have pulled the labs recommended above and then given you a therapeutic trial given the fact that you are symptomatic.

Can we ask how old you are? With that level of SHBG most of your T is definitely bound up and your freeT level shows that. Should you be a candidate for therapy you would definitely need a decent dose to come over the top of that SHBG and allow your FreeT to climb. Would like to see a little...

How long were you on your 1st protocol at 125mg E3.5days and now how long have you been on 75mg every3.5days? Lab notes indicate that these are E2 related. Are those your notes or the doctors? Guys tend to automatically blame estrogen for nearly everything, but I noticed you aren't on an AI...

I believe he's working on that right now with his wife and Dr. Meehan if I remember correctly.

I never felt as good on SubQ either. Don't have a good answer for that other than switching back to shoulder IM did the trick for me at least. IMO a boost in that FreeT may help. If symptoms returned after the dose reduction I think you probably have an answer there. Those numbers don't look...

Anavar, Winstrol, Haloetc.... As far as I know the only one here in the US available under certain cirucmstances would be Oxandrolone (Anavar). There's only mild liver toxicity with it though as long as it's reasonably dosed (that's my understanding).

Let us know if that continues. I personally am not sure which of those would cause that response but that's interesting but am curious as it's obviously doing something for you.

Many guys who juice are still able to get their wives/girlfriends pregnant, so without an analysis there's just no way to really know. And Yes, many guys on TRT with hCG can also get their significant other pregnant. Doesn't necessarily have to be clomid at all. Nelson has posted some really...

Welcome! Feel free to post next set of labs and continue the dialogue.

I"m not sure there's anyway to know unless you either get an analysis done or stop the test and go the Clomid route. Some guys use both hCG and FSH compounded by someone like Empower and have had success going that route while staying on T.

Excellent Post. Thank you for sharing!

Not with injectables. If you were to take an oral androgen of some sort then yes those are very hard on the liver. No liver toxicity with TRT.

Doesn't hurt to supplement with iodine, but as said above, I doubt that's going to resolve your issues. Full thyroid panel and then treat accordingly. And yes, Metformin may need a week or 2 of discomfort while it's cleansing everything. You can use the Sustained Release version, but try and...

That FreeT3 is pretty abysmal. You must be exhausted. What type of treatment are they recommending or are you undergoing for thyroid? Adrenal function plays a factor too. Any saliva-cortisol tests?

Not much improvement in FreeT if that 2% holds true. I doubt your symptoms are all resolved, correct? Would appear that a decent dose increase is going to be needed. Anything else besides the T Cream included in your protocol?

Most guys would switch to ED or EOD injections to keep rises in E2 in check. Less aromitization or more frequent, lower dose injections. From your previous post you definitely need to let your E2 rebound. 9 is dangerously low.

Labs would help, but yes, if your'e very low SHBG every 3 days or probably every other day would work a lot better for you. Definitely post your labs next week.

Welcome!

If there aren't any other glaring issues, symptoms or bloodwork wise then I wouldn't worry about the numbers. They are what they are. Out of curiosity though, what's your overall protocol?

And this was taken at trough, correct?

Thanks for posting. Would love to hear from anyone who's tried it as well.

Man if that's true then we'd have to be taking in ungodly amounts of whey protein daily for it to ever even matter............. Interesting.

Would like to know this as well. Just recently heard of this and would like to know more about the science/data behind it.

_CTI_, please post your labs next time around. Would love to see them. Thanks for sharing your journey!!

What MountainMan said. It took me about a week, but then all the stuffy nose, headache, etc...went away and now I can take anywhere from 2.5mg daily up to 10mg (as needed :-)

If he gets his T3 up a little higher, would he not be able to add in a small daily dose of NDT?Currently I use 1grain NatureThroid with 12.5mcg T3 twice a day. I believe (though I'd have to double check) that my RT3 was around 22 at the time I started this.

Well, that's a pretty reasonable starting dose, 1/2grain. Hopefully some other well versed thyroid guys can chime in. Only other thing I could think of would be cortisol issues. Did you have that tested?

So you noticed substantially different levels when injecting in the quads versus the delts? Higher with the quads I"m assuming?

I think most would recommend NDT with your FreeT3 where it is. What dose did your doc start you on? Maybe it was titrated up too quickly, which could have caused those symptoms you mentioned. It's another aspect of hormones where you start low and titrate up slowly until symptoms are gone.

Your FT3 may be in range but I'd hardly say it's optimal. Looks like further investigation is warranted. Need to see full thyroid panel, not just TSH and FT3.

When you say 2 clicks, what's the dose? And is the compounded T 100mg/ml?